Hi all,

I'm new to Debian-women, that's my first posting on the list ;o)

I agree with plenty of the remarks made here (Eric's, Miriam's ones and so
on). I'd like to addsome critics in a constructive fashion. I find a
woman-focused distribution a bad idea... In other words, creating something
focused on a stereotype of what woman is is so reducing and sexist. Putting
pink or flowers or some 'girly' stuff is so, too. There's no A women's
unique profile, there are as many profiles as there are women in the world.
Creating a distribution orientated to a special human group is admitting
that this group has special needs. That is a biased vision. I'm a woman, my
background isn't in computer science. But I use Debian Sid and Ubuntu and
ArchLinux (as well as I can...). No pink, no flowers, no poneys, no
butterflies.

If a woman isn't interested in informatics, it's partly because little girls
read books on stupid princess saved by a very clever prince or dumb stuff
from that kind. I'm not really sure that creating something special like
shebuntu will change thet thing. I think that it would be far more
interesting for all of us that some men stop considering us like helpless
children or making complexes when, surprisingly for them, we know more...

Have a nice day,
Rayna




2009/9/30 Enrico Zini <[email protected]>

> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 01:45:29AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
>
> > Debian, btw). I understand that you might be really angry with the
> > italian society, but please try to avoid generalizations and
> > stereotyping.
>
> In Myriam's defense I have to say that everything in Italy at the moment
> seems to frame the mass stereotypes as models to follow, and to hide the
> real good examples into oblivion[1]. And indeed many are now looking for
> ways to move abroad.
>
> My reaction after seeing the pinky distribution with horoscopes for the
> girlz coming from a well-intentioned Italian was similar to Myriam's: I
> had a feeling like it just had to happen.
>
> But you are right of course: generalisation is just a way to spread the
> stereotypes even more. Just like saying "people from Sicily like Mafia"
> is, in essence, a way to isolate those of them who don't.
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Enrico
>
> [1] At least, those who do not speak up. Those who do, are beaten up,
> lose their job, or get sued for slander on a judicial system biased
> against people without teams of lawyers and cartloads of money.
> --
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