On 25 August 2010 18:15, Stefano Zacchiroli <[email protected]> wrote: > [ please Cc:-me if you reply only to -women, as I'm not subscribed ] > > Hi everybody, > a couple of months ago I've mailed Marga on the topic of restarting / > giving more visibility to Debian women, as I consider it to be a very > important area of Debian. Then me and Marga were supposed to talk about > that at DebConf10, but one reason or another it didn't happen, then > .... well, to cut a long and uninteresting story short, I'm *very* happy > to see that in the last week Marga re-kick-ed-off activity here, finding > a lot of support. Well done everybody! > > Now a disclaimer: I have never really participated into -women, so > please be kind with me, as an outsider I'm say dull things :-) In the > reminder of this mail I'll just drop down some not very structured > ideas, in case they might help the cause. > > - My main reason for mailing Marga was the lack of visibility of Debian > Women, with no idea on whether that meant no activity or not. In any > case, I believe that being visible is an important part of d-w > activity. Furthermore, I've been observing ubuntu-women [1] activity > and I found them to be very much visible in their community and I > found a pity not to be able to say the same of your work, also > considering that you've been doing it for quite a while now being, > AFAIK, quite unique when the initiative started. > > [1] http://ubuntu-women.org/ > > - As a first tiny teeny step, I suggest adding an entry about the Women > team under http://wiki.debian.org/Teams, which is becoming quite a > relevant portal to answer questions like "how can I help Debian?" The DebianWomen page is currently at w.d.o/DebianWomen and the issue of moving it to w.d.o/Teams/DebianWomen has recently been raised in another thread.
> > - I then wondered whether you've been looking around for what other > distros have been doing. I confess I haven't, besides having seen some > blog posts of u-w. For instance I've noticed that they do activities > such as contests [2] to gather "evidence" of successful participation > of women in FOSS. I've no idea whether something like that makes sense > for d-w or not (see disclaimer above), but I thought you might want to > have a look at what they do, possibly also looking for collaboration > possibilities. > > [2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2010-January/002406.html > > This is of course not specific to Ubuntu, it just happens to be the > only other community I know which is doing something similar. > > *If* you want to do something similar for Debian, I'm ready to use > Debian resources to that end, e.g. for prizes or any other nice/fun > motivational item you can think of. > Well the only thing I heard of recently in u-w was having your picture taken to win prizes. I am not against people having their picture taken but was in the group that felt that it wasn't something d-w would do. > - I had a look at the "mentoring program" as currently drafted on > women.d.o, and I found it great! Still, I've a couple of > suggestions. Can't we use a proper "@debian.org" e-mail address for > requesting mentoring? If yes, I'd say that it would also make sense to > advertise it a bit into NM documentation, of course as a fully > *optional* step, and just for those who request it explicitly. If you > like the idea, I'm all for requesting such an email address and, if > you think it's needed, even delegating who will be behind that role > address. I believe there is a mentoring address at d.o for Debian Women. More info on that at http://women.debian.org/mentoring/ > - "bits from d-w" I've the impression that several people in the project > think that "d-w is dead", I was mistaken myself in that direction. To > dispel that feeling, the "bits from debian women" that Marga sent via > news.d.n [3] are just great. Still, I believe we (i.e. you :)) should > also send a proper mail to d-d-a informing every DD that d-w is alive > and kicking. Probably, you can just take the blog post text and mail > it to d-d-a. > I don't think the need for a group like d-w is ever going to go away. I also think it's perfectly reasonable for a project to flag as the people either settle down within it or find an increasing workload. > [3] http://news.debian.net/2010/08/24/bits-from-the-debian-women-project/ > > - d-w meeting? I think that there is nothing as an in person meeting to > restart activities and poor enthusiasm into past and future > participants. I'm about to announce a general "debian sprint program" > starting this fall, but I wanted you to know that I'll be very happy > to poor some money into a d-w meeting, no matter that program. If you > like the idea, just start drafting some organization and let me know > how much you think it will cost. I'll do my best to have the resources > to let you meet :) Other people seem to have dropped in on this one so I'll leave that to them :) > > More generally, please keep in mind that for me the kind of activities > pushed by d-w are activities it is worth give resources to, so just be > creative and let me know how I can help you with Debian resources! > > You don't state what way you would be prepared to help nor your involvement with the Debian project as a whole? Are you involved in any other way? Perhaps it would be useful for us to know. Please reply on list :) Kind Regards Lesley Binks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
