On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 00:14 +0000, Jon Dowland wrote: > > Jon Downloand has started to tweak the license pages on > > the wiki. I definitely agree that the wiki license should > > be clarified. > > > > However, I would like to say here that I strongly disagree > > with having "per page" licensing terms, because it would > > prevent merging such pages. > > Me too, but we lost that battle, years ago. The references > to requests for an all-encompassing license you see dotted > around were largely by me, Thanks for that effort.
> prior to the merging of the old > wiki content, which was gone ahead with anyway. This was in > 2005 or thereabouts. yep, I've seen that. > We currently either have all-rights reserved implicit > copyright of all authors (including anonymous ones) == no > reuse at all, or page-specific licenses. > > You can't just stick an all-encompassing wiki license on > what is already present without the consent of the > copyright owners. I have the impression that since wiki.debian.net was moved to http://wiki.debian.org in 2004, It has never had a valid "/copyright.html" page. (because that page was static on wiki.d.net, but wiki.d.net had a catch all redirect to *.org, so the copyright wasn't ever served) If that was confirmed, may be we could apply the (www.)debian.org license to the Wiki ? (inherit ??) Alternatively, can't we apply a "de facto" license that match the practices on this (and others) wikis ? i.e : You can edit any page, people can edit your page, People can derive your work, and preserve the same license, freely distributable, etc... > P.S.: are wiki page deletions permanent on MoinMoin? No. (I wouldn't have deleted them otherwise) (goto "RecentChanges", click on the deleted page, then click on Info. you can view any version). > If so, and I can't figure out how if not, I think it was rather > rude to delete the pages I created today on this subject, > which took me many hours. It's not lost. I just "unpublished" it. Accept my apologies, if you got upset. > Irrespective of what we may want > to do in the future, I am trying to document current > practise. This includes the inherited old license (which I > had to dig out of web.archive.org). I understand that, but please don't replace the current http://wiki.debian.org/copyright.html until we have a final resolution on this point. Every time we write something on copyright page, someone could say it can be enforced... Doing that study on a standalone page would be a great idea. (Especially if we can find a good solution). > P.P.S.: I like the idea of wiki discussions taking place on > a mailing list, btw -- I think we should see how it works on > -www, though, and keep the option open to have a specific > list for the purpose. I'm just sure of one thing : Having a discussion on a wiki is insane ;) Wikipedia has no other choice, because of their business model... but Debian has mailing lists. Regarding having a debian-wiki mailing list, well I would rather talk about it later. Once there's an actual need for it. Regards, Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
