Hey Andrew

On Mon, 2026-09-14 at 20:17 +1200, Andrew McMillan wrote:
> > I would have the whole debian/copyright management automated.
> 
> Well, that seems a wonderful goal, and I'm sure it's been thought of
> before, but the reality is that there is very little consistency among
> upstream packages that allows for it.

Sure, and that's also why maintainers are struggling.
> 
> There are plenty of people in Debian who write tools to assist with
> Debian packaging, but in our short history the DFSG team have focused
> almost exclusively on reviewing, and working on tools to build packages
> would not only be a distraction, it would be a conflict of interest.

Just in case there's a miscomprehension here: I never said it would be DFSG
responsibility (or anyone else to be honest). I don't buy the "conflict of
interest" because it's not specifically on one package, but yeah it's
definitely non trivial work. Still, that's something I think would benefit a
lot from automation, for reasons already stated.
> 
> > Sure, but d/copyright is mostly copy/pasting stuff from upstream
> > tarball to the binary package with zero added value. And the
> > potential rest is mostly done by change because maintainers aren't
> > exactly lawyers so the result is at best adequate.
> 
> While it is true that the information collated in debian/copyright is
> assembled from information that is elsewhere in the upstream package,
> it is precisely because that information "could be anywhere" that
> having it collected into a single, known location, in a structured and
> predictable format has value.

Sure. Not sure it's worth the time of handling it manually.
> 
> If you find that the work of other packagers is "inadequate", then
> perhaps you should file bugs against those packages, requesting them to
> do a better job, rather than proposing that the standards should not be
> enforced?

No, I definitely *wont* do that. I'm pretty sure the packagers do the best
they can with the time they have, and since I really don't see the point (or
rather, I don't think it's worth our time), I'm not inflicting that on other
people.

Regards,
-- 
Yves-Alexis

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