IP spoofing may deliver a few packets seeming to come from another source,
but I don't think you'd be able to establish a complete connection and
deliver an email :)

I've been in his situation before, but you really end up with 2 choices.
1 - Wait until it becomes a serious error and you look bad, especially when
you've been alerted there could be an issue and ignored it.
2 - take the information and do everything possible to clear up the issue
and make yourself look good for looking ahead.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Anderson
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Stupid question

This isn't someone we know. I looked them up based on the admin messages we
were getting from declude.virus+mcaffee and they're a technology consulting
firm - which could explain the arrogance. I responded back to his (director
of operations) email. He claimed that they might of been ip spoofed, so I
pointed out that they better check. infected or spoof...it doesn't look good
for a tech firm!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Hyslip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Stupid question


> Maybe if you ask his boss about viruses and show the header, he might be
> able to answer more clearly :P
> I would hope folks would at least check their servers before answering in
> the manner you received, that's just awful :D
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Stupid question
>
>
> >given the following message:
> >
> >Headers
> >Received: from ameripride.org [24.199.28.90] by mail.ameripride.org with
> ESMTP
> >   (SMTPD32-8.05) id AC53428F00FC; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:36:19 -0500
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ...
>
> >Could I conclude that the Netsky virus was coming from a pc with an
> internet
> >ip of 24.199.28.90 or an internet router by the same address?
>
> Yes, it definitely did.
>
> >I pinged the company owning this IP and they stated bluntly "we know we
> >don't have any viruses". Since I don't know what a relayed email header
> >looks like, could it be coming from somewhere else?
>
> It's amazing how often people know things they don't know.  The computer
at
> 24.199.28.90 definitely is almost certainly infected with
> Netsky.p.  Although it is also ARRC's mailserver, Netsky.p sends directly,
> and there are no other Received: headers, so it did come from
> 24.199.28.90.  They don't have to believe you, though -- but that's
exactly
> how viruses spread, and the attitude that spammers love, and the attitude
> that people who receive spam hate.  Some guy doesn't want to lose his job,
> but doesn't realize that he is going to have to admit to having a virus
> eventually (as their E-mail gets blocked because of all the spam coming
> from their server).
>
>                                                     -Scott
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