I use the MS Install routines but from within my install program, I use
command lines which I setup in an ini file,

>From my install program I can install the MSDE with an instance and
password,
Create my database; create my tables, views etc,
And do database updates, backup, restore, attach and detach the database all
form one program, 
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of petesouthwest
Sent: 03 June 2005 07:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: [delphi-en] Re: licensing strategies for networks?

Hi Steve

This sounds like a potential solution for me. Is the database 
installed by your software too or is there some system database used 
for this kind of thing?

Thanks
Pete

--- In [email protected], "Steve Riley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Hi All
> The way I do it in the schools where my software is installed, it 
that they
> use MSSQL for the database
> and when first install the program by the administrator they have 
to put
> there School name in the registration screen then the unlock code
> 
> This is then encrypted into the MSSQL database with their school 
name, the
> expire date (a year from this date) and 4 checksums and a lot of 
extra
> characters all mixed up,
> 
> Then when the program is run from any pc, while the splash screen 
is
> running, the program looks at the MSSQL database. gets the 
encrypted text
> and looks at it, if the date is over the expire date then the 
program will
> stop, (it checks 7 before and lets the user know)
> as they use dates in the program for logging calls, Software 
Library, Stock
> etc, they don't change the date on the PC, and when the run the 
splash
> screen it shows their school name, and the school name is built 
into and
> shown in all the reports
> 
> would you like someone else's school name on your program
> my 2 bobs worth
> Steve
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of petesouthwest
> Sent: 02 June 2005 20:40
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [delphi-en] licensing strategies for networks?
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> Firstly please excuse the disgusting length of this post, and 
thanks
> to those that read it all!!
> 
> I read with interest everyone who has replied to my earlier posts,
> so thanks everyone!
> 
> I must admit however to being confused over some issues,
> particularly register keys, possibly as the conflicting information
> regards different OSs and environments?
> 
> Can I just clarify some issues?
> 
> The app I am working on is intended to be installed by Network
> Support staff in colleges and used by teachers. The app is a `try
> before you buy' that functions for 21 days before requiring a
> code to license it. When the app is first run, if no key is 
present,
> it generates a code  that will expire in 21 days, that code is then
> saved in the newly created registry key. We can then use the 
OnGuard
> components to generate a code that uses the school name as a
> modifier, that maybe used to `unlock' the trial version by a
> user.This may not be hacker proof but is a deterrent for most
> colleges, at least the ones I've worked in!
> 
> The users rarely have anything except basic privileges and would
> certainly NOT be admin. The networks maybe anything from win98
> onwards. I was assuming that the easiest way for network staff to
> install my app would be as a package and assigning it to groups of
> users if the OS had ASD. This I believe would result in the app
> being installed locally when it was used by the teachers. I have 
yet
> to consider other OSs.
> 
> In this scenario what register keys could my app use? Would it be
> able to use anything in HKEY_CURRENT_USER and/or 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE?
> 
> It has also occurred to me that if the app is installed locally and
> I store the release key in the registry that it would require
> licensing by each person using the software or on each machine that
> it is used on (depending on registry key?).
> 
> I would prefer that my app could be licensed by anyone using it for
> the entire site. However, I'm unsure of how to write my code to
> achieve this.
> 
> The above assumption and associated problem has made me consider
> suggesting that the software is installed on a shared drive, with
> shortcuts being placed on the users desktops.  Rather than storing
> the release code in the registry, it could be stored in an ini file
> in the apps folder. This however makes it really easy for people to
> delete the ini file that would result in my app thinking it was
> being run for the first time and giving another 21 days trial.
> 
> So how about this:
> 
> look for a registry key
> if the reg key is not there then
> // the app hasn't been run on this machine before
>   begin
>   create the reg key
>   if the ini file exists then
>       read and use code
>   else
>     begin
>     generate a release code that will expire in 21 days from now
>     create ini file
>     store code in ini file
>     end
> else // the key is in the registry so the app has run before
>     begin
>     try to read and use the code stored in the ini file,
>     end
> 
> The incoreect code or a missing code would then result in the trial
> ending.
> 
> Hmmm my heads spinning but that seems to be sound in my mind.
> 
> Any comments appreciated.
> 
> Thanks for reading down to here! ;)
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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