Well my history has been similar to the one below; turbo pascal 4,5,6,7 then turbo pascal for windows then delphi 1 to 7 (never really bothered about delphi past 7) and well to me it seems almost a big mix of either borland for one, the pascal language two and delphi - which was created by borland *around* the pascal language so here are my thoughts on all three
borland has always been pretty confused from the first days of purchasing word perfect then dbase from ashton tate and had its borland office suite which it sold off, the mishaps with the inprise episode, the messup with interbase (making it open source then closing it again) so borland as a company might be the reason for the fall of delphi as much as i think delphi is the *best* development tool (and note: i say development tool; not language) for win32 owing to borlands fast(est) pascal compiler and inginuety of the delphi language creators. so thumbs down for borland. second, the pascal language is the closest to c and c++ i've seen, and being someone who is able to program in both id confidently say pascal can do *everything* and i mean everything >>functionally<< that c can do. c and c++ is for die hards and pascal just makes c more readable and safer to program in. Owing to its english like structure it makes a great tool for learning and at the same time giving enormous power plus safety controls. Pascal is like a very very powerful car with a great steering and safety system, side mirrors automatic overspeeding indicators :p where c and c++ is like an equal powerful car without side mirrors and you can very easily go off the road if you do not know the language well. Pascal is also one of the languages which have survived dos, dpmi, win16, win32, linux (can even be interpreted), embedded EPROM programming and other unix etc... just like c has so its not based on architecture. what i mean by this is pascal wasnt created to make applications for dos or windows; it was meant to be a computer instruction language so can be used irregardless of the platform, and that's another quality i consider in a real language and i bet it can be adopted into .net if someone sat down to do it... (delphi .net?) on to delphi, delphi did to pascal what visual basic did to basic, so naturally pascal being a compiled language kept its "features" (there are pascal interpretors). borland also used c to come up with c builder which is probably the best development ide ever. what i think is killing delphi now is borland, not the language - if microsoft had come up with delphi it would have a future. So you get people saying .net is the way to go without having any idea on how to develop software because microsoft put it out there and marketed it well. Dont get me wrong, c# is a great language; but do we need another language that has to go through years of trying and testing? then again c# but was created for a platform so in my books it isnt really a *true* computer language. So where is delphi going? Off the shelf in a couple of years if you ask me; but somehow something tells me .net will do its rounds just like java did. Great hype, then "die" down and settle where it is meant to be. I know im with delphi for the next 5 years? I know another great solution will come up that will "derive" from pascal and keep us going. So delphi might die but pascal is here to stay. Comments? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I've been using Delphi for 7 years, from Delphi 1 (and I've been using > Borland Pascal before,) and I use to think that Delphi was the best. > However, about three years ago, I was sensing that the market goes in > another direction, and not for once Borland was playing games with its > developer base (remember Inprise episod? Borland C++ which iritated > Microsoft? JBuilder which was eclipsed by... Eclipse? C#Builder? > Delphi.Net? what about Sidekick?!? Kylix? - I still think that Borland > was good only at Delphi for Windows, while its market strategy sucks!) > So, three years ago I've reoriented myself to .Net. > .Net 1.1 was a mess, but worked. These days I'm on .Net 2.0 and is > preaty good, maybe as good as Delphi 5! > I've done some research in Avalon, and - believe me, what is comming > will change everything for everybody! (Avalon will unify the > development for OS with development for Web.) > In the end a developer has to do what a developer has to do: go with > the market, and I agree, Delphi is no more on the market, and what's > left of it, will go out soon. 8^( What do you figure yourself working > with five years from now? ... > > Horia > > ----- Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:mikiwoz%40yahoo.co.uk> > --------- > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:49:43 +0200 > From: Micha? Wo?niak <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:mikiwoz%40yahoo.co.uk>> > Reply-To: [email protected] <mailto:delphi-en%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [delphi-en] Delphi and where it's going > To: [email protected] <mailto:delphi-en%40yahoogroups.com> > > >> I've used Delphi since the year it was released and have used nothing > >> else for serious production work since that time (though I've studied > >> any number of alternatives). I totally agree it is the best Win32 > >> development tool around. > > > > I know I will be repeating myself here, but have you given Lazarus a > try? I > > know "OpenSource" sounds "not seriouss stuff", but I am sure that that is > > changing fast and that Lazarus has some great potential - and has it > right > > now. > > > > By the way, it seems both scary and entertaining to watch how people > ignore > > some good and cheap (free?) solutions just because they're cheap/free > ("nah, > > a cheap/free thing can't be good") - vide Lazarus, FPC, Linux, > Apache, the > > list is as long as it gets. > > > > Cheers > > Mike > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@! come-ons? 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