So it's basically the same in your country. I think we'll just have to learn to live with the fact that it is happening. :-( Borland certainly made mistakes but ofcourse if you look at WordPerfect, Netscape, Realplayer,... they are just another victim.
Delphi will stay for my hobby projects, allthough I'm thinking to write my new projects in C# <sigh>. Also the community around Delphi has always been very helpful, friendly & really a community that helps each other. (like this one for example) That I kinda miss with .NET, C#, it's more commercial and the forums are helpful but it isn't in that 'family like'-style, like with the Delphi community. Also the VCL in Delphi was a major success, alot of people have created components for free with source and of good quality, in .NET it's more like: it's good, but it costs $$$ :-/ It's more commercial and for personal projects I do not want to pay. And most of all, the delphi groups I'm subscribed to, all still have lots of activity (especially this one) so I'm not depressed yet. ;-) Greets, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [delphi-en] Opinion... >I think your general analysis is accurate: > I am working in Italy: > Delphi has never really taken off here: > Italians like designer labels and most management hasn't heard of Borland > so it is either MS tools for windows or multiplatform (mostly Java, > C/C++); > I think everywhere else will end up like this; > In hindsight Borland should have aimed Delphi at Windows/Unix/Linux/Mac > and kept its prices competitive so that it could have provided a > professional > multiplatform tool which could perhaps have become a statndard if it could > have competed > with free tools like Java; > > The only thing Delphi can really offer now is compact Win32 executables, > which won't win it a market share; > > I think Borland knows what is happening but won't admit it: the way it is > handling the sale > of its development tools is only the latest in a series of market > decisions > marking > a progressive degredation of a product that is unable to gain a market > share; > > If you know C/C++/C# or Java, I would keep those up for your professional > work, > use Delphi for yourself for sentimental reasons, but don't rely on it for > your job; > You may find work converting Delphi products to C#, so it will be useful > to > know; > I could not recommend Delphi to a client for the development of a new > project, > unless he is already using Delphi; > > Sorry if I sound cynical, but I have, like you concentrated on Delphi, and > have found myself without work for 60% of the last two years > (there is a recession in Italy which doesn't help: software houses here > using Delphi > no longer find clients!!); > > I am retraining in C# which I find quite usable, though I suspect I may > also > have to emigrate; > > Kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nick_journals" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:15 PM > Subject: [delphi-en] Opinion... > > >> Hi guys, >> >> For some time now I have been wondering about the future of Delphi. >> I'm a Pascal developer since 93, and then in 95 a dream came true. I got >> Delphi 1 in a PC magazine, and nothing ever looked like that before, a > dream >> came true! >> Compared to VB 3, 4 it was fantastic. :-)) >> I followed all the versions, up to Delphi 7; it was always the superior > hand >> in my eyes. (All Borland development tools btw) >> >> But since Visual Studio 2003+ I see that things are changing, Microsoft >> is >> getting the better of Borland. A lot of companies that I know were using >> Delphi are switching to either .NET or Java. They aren't even trying > Delphi >> 2005. >> >> At the company I work, I had to program in C# with VS2005, and I have to >> admit I like it :-/, I also knew C for years and liked it, but now with >> C#... >> I have this mixed feeling of: NO Delphi is my native tongue and I will >> not >> betray it, but somehow I feel that the market is pushing me in that >> direction. >> You can certainly see that one of the main Delphi developers ran across >> because VS has a lot (and sometimes superior) in common with Delphi. >> Also the 'For Sale' of Borland isn't good news. >> >> So, I just wanted to know. What is your opinion on this? Am I the only >> one >> here that are thinking of a doom scenario? Any experience? >> It's just, Delphi was a revolution in the past, it kicked as but I >> somehow >> think that it is dying. >> >> Best Regards, >> Nick >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> Home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delphi-en/ >> To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/381 - Release Date: 03/07/2006 >> >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delphi-en/ > To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. 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