What I've sad is especially true for limited-market, not so popular
applications! If opening up your exe file with notepad provides the name of
the "protection schema" readily available, any Jon Doe user would be able to
crack your application using google! No more disassembling and no more real
cracking. Just plain matching your application's security method to a list
of known commercial "protection schemas"! Who knows, maybe next year a
script kiddie with too much free time will write a "security" application
that would make identifying the "commercial grade" protection schema a snap!

If on the other hand you're interesting in keeping and improving your own
protection schema, just come up with specific questions. I'm sure lots of us
will follow the discussions.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:delphi-talk-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Human
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:50 PM
> To: Delphi-Talk Discussion List
> Subject: RE: What VCL do you use for protecting your application?
> 
> Thanks allot for your indications.
> I already looked on cracking forums and web sites and the conclusions are
> pretty 'dark'.
> Those guys can crack anything. For example this guy was quite funny
> http://www.woodmann.com/fravia/compro2.htm.
> As I know, until now there is no application that poses a real challenge
> to those crackers. All
> applications were cracked sooner or latter.
> 
> 
> Anyway I am not interested in implementing a very powerful protection
> scheme since my software
> have a very limited marked so it won't be very popular like Winamp,
> Windows, Delphi, ACDSee.
> So there will be very little interest for crackers to crack my software.
> I just want a very flexible and STABLE solution.
> A solution which will allow me to generate unique keys, temporary keys,
> partially keys...
> 
> The main problem for unique (hardware based) keys is: what will happen if
> the customer will
> upgrade his hardware.
> I should generate for him a new key. But the question is how often should
> I allow a customer to
> ask for a new key?
> I really need some opinions about this issue.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Cosmin Prund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Tip:
> >
> > Before you make your decision on a component for trialware-enabling your
> > application consider looking it up on "cracking" forums and P2P
> programs.
> > There might be a "generic crack" available for that component and that
> would
> > make cracking your programs very easy.
> >
> > Also be aware a crackers interest in cracking a given protection schema
> is
> > based on the popularity of the protected software. When you're sharing
> your
> > protection schema with many other applications you're automatically
> > increasing cracker interest in your application.
> >
> > If you're unlucky enough to select a "popular" protection schema with
> > available generic cracks, it will be worst then using your own code.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:delphi-talk-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Human
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:05 PM
> > > To: Delphi-Talk Discussion List
> > > Subject: What VCL do you use for protecting your application?
> > >
> > > Hello.
> > > I want to implement a protection for one of my programs to make it
> > > trialware.
> > > I used until now my own component but now I want to use a professional
> > > solution that allow me to
> > > generate unique keys based on hardware ID.
> > >
> > > I've tried TmxProtect but it is unstable and has almost no
> documentation
> > > (but is free).
> > > With a little improvement it will be the best VCL around. But until
> then I
> > > need something else.
> > >
> > > I also tried other VCLs but I've found only bad jokes. For example a
> VCL
> > > at 199$ which was weak
> > > then mine and had no hardware ID options.
> > >
> > >
> > > Any idea?
> > >
> > >
> > > If I choose Christianity then the Islamic will say I'm a pagan.
> > > If I choose Islamic then the Buddhism will say I'm a pagan.
> > > If I chose Buddhism then the Jewish will say I'm pagan.
> > > If I choose no God then everybody will say I'm pagan.
> > > Please, can I be free? Can you NOT tell me how I should live MY life?
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> If I choose Christianity then the Islamic will say I'm a pagan.
> If I choose Islamic then the Buddhism will say I'm a pagan.
> If I chose Buddhism then the Jewish will say I'm pagan.
> If I choose no God then everybody will say I'm pagan.
> Please, can I be free? Can you NOT tell me how I should live MY life?
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