I would first look for components that write their own properties out using TFiler 
(Define Properties etc). , as I would suspect that an AV is getting thrown at this 
stage.

There should be no problem with Delphi just reading standard published props and 
writing them to the file. 

-----Original Message-----
From:   Nahum Wild [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, May 28, 1999 2:27 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list delphi
Subject:        RE: [DUG]:  Delphi 4 DFM designtime AVs - URGENT.

Yep I do have my own components on the form.  Lots and lots of components on
these two forms.  I already have slated down on the 'to do' list to redo
these forms so that they consist of a main form with a number of embedded
forms instead of just one form with heaps of controls on it.  Doing that
will at least eliminate a potential cause or two.  It may even help to show
if a particular component of mine has kicked the bucket or not.

In terms of reading in the form file, dephi can do that fine, but its the
saving aspect that it has the problem with.  I can still manipulate the form
in the IDE just fine. Corruption is a main suspicion.  But it does not seem
right as I can go to a backup that was working fine and it then has the same
problems!   This makes it look like something has changed in my system setup
that is doing this to previously fine DFM files.

I have to wait till tonight before I can fiddle with the resource explorer.

Food for thought.
Thanks


Nahum

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, 28 May 1999 08:42
> To:   Multiple recipients of list delphi
> Subject:      RE: [DUG]:  Delphi 4 DFM designtime AVs - URGENT.
> 
> Have you got your own components on the Form?
> Sounds like a streaming problem - Delphi Can't read in the Form file and
> get it match with you components.
> 
> The other alternative is that form file is actually corrupt (This is
> perhaps more likely).
> 
> Do you have an earlier working version? - You could use the Delphi
> Resource explorer and export the Form details using this and then
> re-construct this into a valid .DFM 
> 
> Myles.
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Nahum Wild [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent:   Thursday, May 27, 1999 9:19 PM
>       To:     Multiple recipients of list delphi
>       Subject:        [DUG]:  Delphi 4 DFM designtime AVs - URGENT.
> 
>       I've got a problem with a couple of DFM files that D4 is suddenly,
> and for
>       no apparent reason, spitting at.  A number of things are happening :
> 
>       I get the following message when I try to compile with either of
> them open
>       in the IDE -
>       [Error] RLINK32: Error opening file "Forms\PlanetPageForm.DFM" and
>       [Error] RLINK32: Error opening file "Forms\ShipPageForm.DFM"
>       But never both at once.  But if they are not open in the IDE the
> project
>       compiles just fine.  I checked the help on the error and it said
> contact
>       Borland, but I thought I'd post here as well.
> 
>       Whenever I make a change to the forms layout and try to save it I
> get an AV,
>       but any changes made to the pas are saved.  I cannot view the DFM
> text in
>       the delphi IDE because I get the same AV.
> 
>       I went to an earlier version of the project that was working when I
> made the
>       backup, but the problem persists.  I've reinstalled D4, no change
> (Although
>       I did export my reg settings before the uninstall and reimported
> them after
>       the install).  I've tried the project on another PC, same problems.
> I've
>       even done a scandisk and defrag, problem still there.
> 
>       Both are reasonable sized DFM files, 42k (PlanetPageForm.DFM) and
> 27k
>       (ShipPageForm.DFM).  The biggest in my app by far.  But they have
> been that
>       size for months without problems.  It's really bizarre because I had
> not
>       worked on the PlanetPageForm for a few days and suddenly it throws
> these AVs
>       at me without having touched it!!
> 
>       My system specs are not lacking in any way, Win98 on a PII266, 256mb
> ram,
>       1.23gb free on the projects drive.  I have D4 with up to and
> including the
>       third patch.  Currently no third party components / apps installed
> into
>       delphi.  I know that NT4 is the perferred choice in development
> platform but
>       at the moment it's not a option - no multi monitor support.
> 
>       These two forms form the entire basis of the application (or game as
> you may
>       have guessed by now) and as a result the games development has
> ground to a
>       halt.  (I'm currently going nuts cause I can't work on it.)
> 
>       Anyone know anything about this type of problem?? Thanks in advance
> for any
>       advice / help.
> 
> 
>       PS. I work on this as my night job (Swichtec during the day)  So
> responses
>       from me won't be immediate.
> 
>       Nahum Wild
>       Software Developer
>       Realism
> 
> 
>       
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