If you recall, on friday (?) there was a discussion about Inprise losing money. Try this link, and small explanation: http://www.infotech.co.nz/current/nxinpr.html net income of 22million (US) on revenue of $174.8 million I had it explained to me (not by Inprise, or anyone "in the biz", but my father :) ) that when it is said "Inprise lost $10mil on last years figures" it normally means something like: last years profit: 15million this years profit: 5million Which should be translated as "we didn't make as much as last year, but we still made a profit". FYI :) N -- Nic Wise - 021.676.418 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Inprise/Borland New Zealand Is it not a foolish man, said little Woo, who keeps all his chickens in his trousers? For at best, will he not suffocate his chickens, and, and worst, will he not disappoint the ladies in the village? --Alexi Sayle --------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand Delphi Users group - Delphi List - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.delphi.org.nz