OK, on the IB site, there is Q&A about 6.0, and about both the DFA problem with IBConsole I was having, and also about the ODBC drivers, in which they recommend you get the 5.x client and use the ODBC driver from that, which works, but doesn't work witht he new data types. Such is life, but it DOES work! :) N -- Nic Wise - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Inprise/Borland New Zealand main line: 09.360.0231 / ddi: 09.360.6713 / cell: 021.676.418 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand Delphi Users group - Delphi List - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.delphi.org.nz