Jeremy, since you didn't read it first time...

I am finally considering the move to enterprise after the demo! A mixture of
the WebSnap/DataSnap gives me a complete development platform (Fat clients
communicating via SOAP to a DataSnap based middle layer, RAD WEB Development
for the remote thin client), Though I have posed the following questions

1/ What parts of BixSnap/DataSnap/WebSnap will make it thru to Kylix (and in
what form)
2/ What do Borland mean by "Simple DataSnap deployment licensing" on
http://www.borland.com/delphi/del6/featurematrix/datasnap.html
3/ Price (Don't take the Website price at face value
http://www.borland.co.nz/retail/faxnz.html)

Hopefully if 2/ is resolved then D6 Ent provides an "up to the minute" 3
tier dev platform with a "free to distribute" middle tier (in the form of a
ISAPI/NSAPI/Apache DLL) add to that

1/ Cross Platform Dev
2/ Future portability to Win64 and dotNet
3/ Integration to EJB (albeit in a borland Proprietary manner. ie it only
works on AppServer)

I think a VB developer (facing another shafting in the form of VB7/VB.NET)
would be foolish not to consider jumping ship, Any Company out there that
is launching a new VB based development must be run by fraidy cat IT staff
(no one got fired for buying M$)

I loved the ability to drag and drop controls into other parents!

As for little to for the desktop developer I was skeptical as to what D6
could offer, after all D4/D5 was pretty good, If WebSnap delivers
80% of what was demoed it "Delphiizes" Web Dev ie makes it a 'Snap' not a
Burden, therefore the development effort was well directed
Ffor those who can recall some of my previous scathing comments about doing
webdev in Delphi will realize this is a major opinion shift, hah
I'm a big boy I can change my mind! (caveat: If you were contemplating a
'large' scalable WebDev Java is still the tool, my target market is in the
1-20 user Segment

My main disappointments are to do with the basic structure of the Delphi
Class structure, Why have they not used interfaces more?
If they had implemented the new "Variant" via an interface definition it
would be more universally applicatable rather than simply being
another branch off the TObject Class tree

Unfortunately John Kaster had to run off to an interview which left no Q&A
Time (similar thing happened with David I's last visit) in future i think
they could leave at least an hour after a lauch for us to grill the Borland
"stars"

It may not show but I'm really excited

Night All

Neven


----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy Coulter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 1 June 2001 22:44
Subject: [DUG]: Re Borland Seminars


> Hi all.
>
> Have not seen ANY comments from anyone about the Borland Seminars on
> JBuilder and Delphi6.
>
> It was a NICE change to have someone from Borland actually come to CHCH.
> Especially to have John Kaster in person doing the Delphi 6 bit.
> As my boss and I are the only Delphi developers at my work, it was good to
> see the 3 VB developers sqworming in their seats at the technology that D6
> has....they realize how dated VB6 now is....infact...compared to D5 its
> total crap...but thats another story.
>
> Anyway, they were also very impresses, and we had a "Delphi Session" as
work
> today...YAY.
>
> It was also a shame that the session was not a bit longer, even if it did
go
> an hr over time :), but there was a lot we didnt see simply due to the
time
> limitation, but none the less, i found it very informative.
> I found it quite cool that the person who writes some of the stuff I uses
> every day was doing the presintation. Normally when Microsoft do a
> presintation, its a sale rep type of person, and they only know as much as
> they train them at the MS Zoo, where as John is an active developer too
and
> so we got little tip bits on the way.
>
> Anyway, thats my rant...just thoguth SOMEONE shoudl make a comment on it.
>
> Jeremy Coulter
>

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