Greetings all. Sorry about not giving a proper introduction to the XP Method of development. Essentially XP addresses the problem you probably all know about - that is that your customer never gives you complete or correct requirements, meaning your specification is never totally correct - and you always end up changing things, extending things, or at worse, rewriting things. The answer is to let it go - accept that the user will change their mind, and move to a development model which accomodates users changing needs. Many of the ideas begind XP actually have been around since much earlier. If you have read Code Complete and Microsoft Secrets you will already know about many of the things XP is about. The essential core of XP is evolution. Rather than depending on perfect requirements and design (and we all know those are fantasies) we take a more pragmatic approach - that we can only really plan in detail a few weeks ahead, and that we can only plan a 'direction' for the longer term. Rather than in depth planning we evolve solutions with the aid of our users as a form of 'natural selection' in a quick release cycle. XP is only one method using evolutionary techniques, and some people are getting hung up on the details - such as pair programming. I don't believe pair programming is the core success. The core is the way code is cycled quickly through iterations, and extensive use of unit tests. As a result the end product fits the users needs in a way that developments with up front design can't hope to achieve. XP is not fragile. It is not a case where just because you don't follow one of the "golden rules" the method will fail. In fact the method itself is adaptive - you change the details to fit your organisation. The core principle (in my opinion) is the evolutionary principle - that you need to have a close ongoing communication with users, and a tight release cycle. In support of this view I note the success of the Open Source method. In Open Source generally test units are not common. Pair programming is also very rare in OS. However the core of quick release cycles to the user has the same effect - of evolution by mini iterations rather than monolithic large versions releases. One of the difficulties however is application of XP to visual apps like Delphi typically produces. While test frameworks for Java are quite well developed, unit test systems for Delphi are more challanging. If anyone has ideas for solutions to creating test units for visual apps - I would like to hear them... Regards, Peter Harrison --------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand Delphi Users group - Delphi List - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.delphi.org.nz To UnSub, send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body of "unsubscribe delphi"