Hi all,

I've just read through quite a few of the messages in this thread (not  all, I 
admit) and there are a few things in here I should respond to.


> Actually, afaict Embarcadero have been absolutely silent on the

> matter.  The policy change has leaked out only via *some* resellers.

Nothing has leaked. Official announcements are coming, but I notified our Asia 
sales staff and asked them to notify our partners and customers last week so we 
could give people as much notice as possible (also for another reason, see the 
end of this email). I posted advance notice to the ADUG list here in Aus, and 
would have posted on this list except Richard asked if he could post it. As our 
local representative in NZ, it made sense to me that he do it. Nothing 
underhand going on.

Also, the reason I haven't responded sooner is that I only check the lists 
every week or so, unless someone alerts me to something that needs more urgent 
attention.


Ø  I still feel cheated that at no time were those of us who bought Delphi 2005 
which still has many unpatched major problems

Ø  given the opening to more reasonibly  ($) upgrade from it.

I'm sorry you feel like this, but this is not accurate. Multiple times a year 
we offer discounts/bundles/third-party value-adds, etc to upgraders. I've got a 
partial list here and it shows that since 2006 was released we've done at least 
6 such offerings in NZ, and I haven't bothered going through the rest of my 
email archive to see if there were more. Now, the offers we made may not have 
been enough to make you accept, that's a separate issue, but saying we've made 
no offers to previous users is plainly wrong.

In terms of updates, we haven't really changed our policy for a long time. 
Leaving aside people who pay for higher levels of support, we typically release 
update packs during the first 6-12 months of the product's life (eg, 3 update 
packs for 2005, 2 update packs for 2006 + 11 hotfix packs, etc) but once a 
later version has come out, these typically slow down or stop entirely. That 
may not be what everybody wants, I appreciate that, but despite multiple 
attempts over the years it's proven difficult if not impossible to get update 
packs for older releases on the schedule. So, despite wishing it were 
different, I doubt we're going to be able to change that.

I've probably missed some questions, feel free to tell me if I have, but let me 
finish on a slightly more positive note.

In addition to giving people as much notice as possible, part of the point of 
letting people know about this change in advance is so that I could gauge the 
reaction.

Today we treat someone who last invested in a Delphi license 14 years ago with 
Delphi 1, exactly the same as someone who invested 1 year ago with 2009. I 
firmly believe we should give people who spent money with us recently some 
benefit, especially those who spent money with us during the years when you 
couldn't have blamed them for keeping their wallet in their pocket. So, while I 
support the spirit of this change, the detail of where we draw the cutoff line 
is still a topic I think we can adjust. In talking with customers and staff and 
watching the discussions on various groups around the region and I think I've 
seen enough to go back to our internal discussion and suggest we need to change 
our current proposal. So, your feedback is being heard, despite what you might 
believe from some of the comments.

Lastly, can I just make a request for a fair go for the current Embarcadero 
team? We are well aware that we cannot ignore the "legacy" of decisions made by 
Borland Executives over the years, and we are trying extremely hard to walk the 
line of investing to take the product back above the historic levels of quality 
and innovation you came to expect, and at the same time keeping it a profitable 
business for our owners. I think the local team are very open to accommodating 
requests from customers when they are brought to us (I think I've approved most 
of the requests for special consideration I've seen in recent memory) and 
hopefully some of you have experienced that. I understand that some of you feel 
like you may have beaten your heads against a brickwall at Borland for too 
long, but can I just ask that if you have an issue, you bring it to us and see 
if we can work out a solution. If we can't keep you happy, of course you should 
criticise us, but given everything that seems to have changed for the better 
over the last 12-15 months, I'd appreciate it if you could give us a chance to 
fix the issues before shooting us. My contact details are at the bottom of the 
email, you should absolutely feel free to use them.

I'll try and take a more regular look at this thread for the next few days.

Cheers
Malcolm

Malcolm Groves
Senior Director, Asia Pacific
Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. | 
www.embarcadero.com<http://www.embarcadero.com/>
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