1. Still maintaining Delphi code?
        Yes, Large code base with multiple application

2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?
        Yes, some internal tools.

3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what was
the language)?
        Yes, C#, a WPF and WCF application.

4. What other languages are you using learning?
        Ruby on rails for some hobby project.

I think there will be work for Delphi developers, mainly on legacy
projects though.  I think there will just be less and less openings for
such jobs.  I do see a trend that some places are starting new projects
mainly in c# and when suitable redeveloping the Delphi parts that need
major updates or rework straight into c#.


Steve Ayers
Analyst Programmer


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   2. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (Kyley Harris)
   3. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (Alister Christie)
   4. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (Dave O'Brien)
   5. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (Kyley Harris)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:14:40 +1300
From: Leigh Wanstead <lei...@softtech.co.nz>
Subject: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
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Good morning,

I thought that I must ask this question. I only see one job ads for
cobol programmer in seek website. If cobol programmer face this
situation, what about Delphi programmer?

TIA

Regards
Leigh



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:31:29 +1300
From: Kyley Harris <ky...@harrissoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
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Grim :)

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Leigh Wanstead
<lei...@softtech.co.nz>wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I thought that I must ask this question. I only see one job ads for
cobol
> programmer in seek website. If cobol programmer face this situation,
what
> about Delphi programmer?
>
> TIA
>
> Regards
> Leigh
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:47:45 +1300
From: Alister Christie <alis...@salespartner.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
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I think there is still plenty of work around for Delphi developers - all

that Delphi code out there isn't just going to go away and will need to 
be maintained.  However, the question that should be asked is how many 
people are starting new projects in Delphi (as opposed to C# / Java / 
Ruby etc).

It's my understanding that specialized skills (Delphi Programming) 
usually demand higher rewards as opposed to commodity programming (C# or

Java), but I guess it's mostly going to come down to supply and demand.

All the same - it's probably worth learning another language.

I haven't started any kind of new project for awhile, and have been just

enhancing our existing products.  I've just started learning Ruby on 
Rails (although haven't gotten very far as yet), which I hope to start 
something with this year.

How about other people:

1. Still maintaining Delphi code?

2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?

3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what was 
the language)?

4. What other languages are you using learning?

My Answers
1. Yes, 2. No, 3. No, 4. C# (Compact Framework)

Alister Christie
Computers for People
Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
http://www.salespartner.co.nz
PO Box 13085
Johnsonville
Wellington 



Leigh Wanstead wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> I thought that I must ask this question. I only see one job ads for
cobol programmer in seek website. If cobol programmer face this
situation, what about Delphi programmer?
>
> TIA
>
> Regards
> Leigh
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:53:57 +1300
From: "Dave O'Brien" <d...@iccs.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
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1. Yes
2. Yes, 3
3. No
4. None at the mo...

Dave.
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Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?

I think there is still plenty of work around for Delphi developers - all

that Delphi code out there isn't just going to go away and will need to 
be maintained.  However, the question that should be asked is how many 
people are starting new projects in Delphi (as opposed to C# / Java / 
Ruby etc).

It's my understanding that specialized skills (Delphi Programming) 
usually demand higher rewards as opposed to commodity programming (C# or

Java), but I guess it's mostly going to come down to supply and demand.

All the same - it's probably worth learning another language.

I haven't started any kind of new project for awhile, and have been just

enhancing our existing products.  I've just started learning Ruby on 
Rails (although haven't gotten very far as yet), which I hope to start 
something with this year.

How about other people:

1. Still maintaining Delphi code?

2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?

3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what was 
the language)?

4. What other languages are you using learning?

My Answers
1. Yes, 2. No, 3. No, 4. C# (Compact Framework)

Alister Christie
Computers for People
Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
http://www.salespartner.co.nz
PO Box 13085
Johnsonville
Wellington 



Leigh Wanstead wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> I thought that I must ask this question. I only see one job ads for
cobol programmer in seek website. If cobol programmer face this
situation, what about Delphi programmer?
>
> TIA
>
> Regards
> Leigh
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:56:04 +1300
From: Kyley Harris <ky...@harrissoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List <delphi@delphi.org.nz>
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I am both maintaining and starting new projects in Delphi, and wont be
learning a new language anytime soon. My Hobbies are so busy I have no
time
for playing with other tools. Besides which, by doing my own software
I'm
not forced into needing to use another languages. Delphi is still
excellent
(although I cant compare against the newer offerings from MS)

I have a huge investment in time and tools developed for Delphi and if I
was
going to migrate I'd need a migration plan for those tools too.

As far as getting work in Delphi. I have not even looked for 6 years....
no
idea about the climate.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Alister Christie <
alis...@salespartner.co.nz> wrote:

> I think there is still plenty of work around for Delphi developers -
all
> that Delphi code out there isn't just going to go away and will need
to
> be maintained.  However, the question that should be asked is how many
> people are starting new projects in Delphi (as opposed to C# / Java /
> Ruby etc).
>
> It's my understanding that specialized skills (Delphi Programming)
> usually demand higher rewards as opposed to commodity programming (C#
or
> Java), but I guess it's mostly going to come down to supply and
demand.
> All the same - it's probably worth learning another language.
>
> I haven't started any kind of new project for awhile, and have been
just
> enhancing our existing products.  I've just started learning Ruby on
> Rails (although haven't gotten very far as yet), which I hope to start
> something with this year.
>
> How about other people:
>
> 1. Still maintaining Delphi code?
>
> 2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?
>
> 3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what
was
> the language)?
>
> 4. What other languages are you using learning?
>
> My Answers
> 1. Yes, 2. No, 3. No, 4. C# (Compact Framework)
>
> Alister Christie
> Computers for People
> Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
> http://www.salespartner.co.nz
> PO Box 13085
> Johnsonville
> Wellington
>
>
>
> Leigh Wanstead wrote:
> > Good morning,
> >
> > I thought that I must ask this question. I only see one job ads for
cobol
> programmer in seek website. If cobol programmer face this situation,
what
> about Delphi programmer?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Regards
> > Leigh
> >
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:56:39 +1300
From: ber...@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
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>>>>> "Alister" == Alister Christie <alis...@salespartner.co.nz> writes:

    Alister> 1. Still maintaining Delphi code?

Yes.


    Alister> 2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?

No.


    Alister> 3. Started a new project in another language in the last
    Alister> year (what was the language)?

Yes. Eiffel and PHP


    Alister> 4. What other languages are you using learning?

Nothing new at the moment, and nothing on the horizon.


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:56:59 +1100
From: Jeremy North <jeremy.no...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List <delphi@delphi.org.nz>
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Comparing cobol and Delphi developers is a little unfair. I work with
about 30 cobol developers and the only thing they are good for is
making fun of them (lol)!!!

Delphi skills are more transferable to other languages.

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes (C# and Objective-C)
4. C# and Objective-C

I had a look at Ruby and Rails last year when I was going to rewrite
my website in it. Got side tracked with more important things.


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Alister Christie
<alis...@salespartner.co.nz> wrote:
> I think there is still plenty of work around for Delphi developers -
all
> that Delphi code out there isn't just going to go away and will need
to
> be maintained. ?However, the question that should be asked is how many
> people are starting new projects in Delphi (as opposed to C# / Java /
> Ruby etc).
>
> It's my understanding that specialized skills (Delphi Programming)
> usually demand higher rewards as opposed to commodity programming (C#
or
> Java), but I guess it's mostly going to come down to supply and
demand.
> All the same - it's probably worth learning another language.
>
> I haven't started any kind of new project for awhile, and have been
just
> enhancing our existing products. ?I've just started learning Ruby on
> Rails (although haven't gotten very far as yet), which I hope to start
> something with this year.
>
> How about other people:
>
> 1. Still maintaining Delphi code?
>
> 2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?
>
> 3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what
was
> the language)?
>
> 4. What other languages are you using learning?
>
> My Answers
> 1. Yes, 2. No, 3. No, 4. C# (Compact Framework)
>
> Alister Christie
> Computers for People
> Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
> http://www.salespartner.co.nz
> PO Box 13085
> Johnsonville
> Wellington
>
>
>
> Leigh Wanstead wrote:
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I thought that I must ask this question. I only see one job ads for
cobol programmer in seek website. If cobol programmer face this
situation, what about Delphi programmer?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Regards
>> Leigh
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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