"At the very least this time around they should be offering the "unpadded" versions for significantly less than the normal price of an upgrade."
That is an interesting idea which I agree would be nice. I suspect Embarcadero would rather just keep quiet and soldier on because any concession like that involves acknowledging that this release is light on real innovation, while also setting a precedent that people can be allowed to buy just part of a new releases features. Frankly none of this surprises me, it always seemed to me that doing cross compilation properly was a multi-year exercise and I've said that from the start. The most worrying thing is that they apparently thought they could do it in a year... at least they were willing to admit (internally) they were wrong and adjust accordingly, even if that leaves many of us in the lurch. Personally we aren't really affected much, we've only just moved to Delphi 2007 and from our point of view Delphi 2011 XE with its extra bug fixes is looking pretty attractive as a next version to jump to... but only if we decide to leap the Unicode chasm which isn't currently on the cards. Cheers, David. From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2010 3:13 p.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade We were told last year that Delphi 2010 was a "productivity and quality improvement release" while we were dangled the carrots of Win64 and the cross-platform this time around. Now Delphi XE is being sold as ANOTHER productivity and quality improvement release. Just how bad are they prepared to admit Delphi was !? What message does this send to anyone considering Delphi ? When a plumber leaves a home full of leaks, he generally doesn't advertise his services by drawing attention to the fact that he's good at fixing the leaks he leaves behind when he first comes to do a job for you. (not that getting bugs fixed isn't A Good ThingT, I just question the idea that it's a selling point to be quite so proud of and loudly trumpeted) I might be more impressed if they had actually fixed some of the bugs I myself reported that have languished in QC for 8+ years (and had not introduced new ones related to those in the meantime). At the very least this time around they should be offering the "unpadded" versions for significantly less than the normal price of an upgrade. i.e. If you want the bug fixes but don't need/want FinalBuilder and all the other stuffing that they are cramming in the box in a desperate attempt to justify the same-ol'-same-ol' price tag, then you should have the option of getting quality in the product you have already paid for at a reasonable price, and not be forced to pay through the nose for things you don't want or need to get what you should be entitled to as a matter of course. But they can't do that without annoying the people who stumped up for SA (many of whom will already be cheesed off if they did so on the strength of previous indications from the "roadmap"). </rant>
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