Jack, I'm using ICS also and they don't need a form at all to work.
Just set the MultiThreaded property to True and it will create it's own 
hidden window with a message loop or you can simply create it yourself.
As I can remember, there's also a MCK library that you can use with KOL to 
do some basic visual design time development.
If that is not an option, than you could rewrite the Delphi-rtl and strip 
everything you don't need.
But for the visual components, it will be a hell of a job, since allmost 
everything inherits from TWinControl ..

Paul



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Borland's Delphi Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: Win32 GUI Library?


> Paul> http://delphi.about.com/od/windowsshellapi/a/apicourse.htm
>
> Thanks Paul. I am aware of that page. I used to do Win32 programming
> in C. I know that means a lot of typing. I am actually looking for
> some frameworks or libraries to make things easier.
>
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Ross Levis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> KOL http://kolmck.net.  I've used this before and it produces very small
>>  executables, but still simple to develop programs.
>
> Thanks Ross. Yeah. I actually tried it before, too. It's very nice if you
> want really small exe file size. The downside is, using some non-GUI
> components would be a problem. For instance, i'm using ICS socket
> library in the full version app. There was a KOL port but that was done
> many years ago, and  was not complete...
>
> But if I can't find any other libraries, I may just give it another shot.
>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  I know this sounds strange, but we have a requirement on
>>  the file size so for one version of our Delphi app, we
>>  need to get rid of TForm (and all other GUI controls) and
>>  use to Win32 API for GUI instead. It's a pain to use Win32
>>  GUI API. So I am wondering if there is a library that makes
>>  creating UI in Win32 easier?
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