Jack, I'm using ICS also and they don't need a form at all to work. Just set the MultiThreaded property to True and it will create it's own hidden window with a message loop or you can simply create it yourself. As I can remember, there's also a MCK library that you can use with KOL to do some basic visual design time development. If that is not an option, than you could rewrite the Delphi-rtl and strip everything you don't need. But for the visual components, it will be a hell of a job, since allmost everything inherits from TWinControl ..
Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Borland's Delphi Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Win32 GUI Library? > Paul> http://delphi.about.com/od/windowsshellapi/a/apicourse.htm > > Thanks Paul. I am aware of that page. I used to do Win32 programming > in C. I know that means a lot of typing. I am actually looking for > some frameworks or libraries to make things easier. > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Ross Levis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> KOL http://kolmck.net. I've used this before and it produces very small >> executables, but still simple to develop programs. > > Thanks Ross. Yeah. I actually tried it before, too. It's very nice if you > want really small exe file size. The downside is, using some non-GUI > components would be a problem. For instance, i'm using ICS socket > library in the full version app. There was a KOL port but that was done > many years ago, and was not complete... > > But if I can't find any other libraries, I may just give it another shot. > >> -----Original Message----- >> I know this sounds strange, but we have a requirement on >> the file size so for one version of our Delphi app, we >> need to get rid of TForm (and all other GUI controls) and >> use to Win32 API for GUI instead. It's a pain to use Win32 >> GUI API. So I am wondering if there is a library that makes >> creating UI in Win32 easier? > _______________________________________________ > Delphi mailing list -> [email protected] > http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi > > _______________________________________________ Delphi mailing list -> [email protected] http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/delphi

