So you want them to quantify an unknown. Good luck with that. Perhaps it's just the areas of the industry you touch that's in trouble.
Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Apr 2015, at 3:20 pm, Jolyon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > If this is what get's dismissed as pedantry these days then the industry is > in deeper trouble than I imagined. It used to be called "paying attention to > important details" and "sounding notes of caution where warranted". > > An Entitlement is not the same as an Obligation or even an Expectation, and > ignoring the distinction is a recipe for disaster in any contract negotiation > (which is what a license and support agreement is, lest we forget). > >> On 13 April 2015 at 16:26, Jeremy North <[email protected]> wrote: >> pedantic much? >> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Jolyon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Updates and hot fixes for up to two (2) years and three (3) major releases >>>> >>>> This is meaningless unless there is also a money-where-your-mouth-is >>>> commitment to provide updates and hotfixes for versions other than the >>>> current one. >>> >>> > This is actually what it says doesn't it. >>> >>> Not really. It says that SA entitles you to receive updates and hot-fixes. >>> It says nothing about any commitment to provide any such updates or >>> hot-fixes. Of course, there is no way to predict just how bad a release is >>> in order to determine how many updates or hotfixes would be required. >>> >>> >>>> On 13 April 2015 at 15:24, Jeremy North <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jolyon Smith <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Native mobile controls OSX iOS Android for many controls (eg DateTime >>>>>> picker) >>>>> >>>>> In one review I read it was noted that this is a NO-OP on everything >>>>> except iOS. On all other platforms you still get the doppelganger >>>>> FireMonkey controls, even if you have configured for "native". >>>> >>>> The native controls are basically for iOS as mentioned - not all have >>>> native support. >>>> >>>> The "doppelganger" fmx controls are good if you are creating a bespoke >>>> look and feel for your corporate brand across all supported platforms. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Updates and hot fixes for up to two (2) years and three (3) major >>>>>> releases >>>>> >>>>> This is meaningless unless there is also a money-where-your-mouth-is >>>>> commitment to provide updates and hotfixes for versions other than the >>>>> current one. >>>> >>>> This is actually what it says doesn't it. The intention is apply fixes to >>>> previous versions. I understand it won't be all fixes as some will not be >>>> possible without breaking interface compatibility. >>>> >>>> If it is done as they say, it will be a welcome change but then again, how >>>> can we trust a company that can't even keep their newsgroups operational >>>> consistently and have drones looking at submitted requests and closing >>>> them with nonsensical resolutions. >>>> >>>> >>>>> When was the last time EMBT released more than a token update or hotfix >>>>> for anything other than the current version ? Is their any commitment to >>>>> do better in this regards in the future ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list >>>> Post: [email protected] >>>> Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi >>>> Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with >>>> Subject: unsubscribe >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list >>> Post: [email protected] >>> Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi >>> Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with >>> Subject: unsubscribe >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list >> Post: [email protected] >> Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi >> Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with >> Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: [email protected] > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with > Subject: unsubscribe
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