I think it will be great if Microsoft buy Delphi and free use delphi just like Microsoft purchased Xamarin :-)
This way Delphi will be free to use and get a big user base. On 12 April 2016 at 05:05, Tony Blomfield <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks very much John. > > > > Why and how do you use both ? > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *John Bird > *Sent:* Monday, 11 April 2016 4:33 p.m. > *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Seattle questions > > > > My perspective, and its a partial one. But I work in a house using both > XE8/Seattle and C# > > > > Q1 – XE8 is fine (our current production version) and all the comments > about Seattle I have heard are good – large projects more stable in > particular. > > > > Q2 > > · Which is more effective at producing finished product. (Faster > to market) > > · Both are fast – Delphi compiler and single file deploy is still > very hard to beat. > > · Which is more effective at meeting customer’s needs. (Faster > customisations) > > · Everyones opinion will differ on this > > · Solution performance. Which is better. (How snappy is the > solution to use) > > · Delphi performance is hard to beat. A lot of .NET is also > very good these days. But not all. > > · Security. Which is better. (.NET seems inherently flawed in > this respect) > > · Delphi does not have zero terminated strings – this has to be a > huge advantage as buffer overflows in strings are likely the main security > weakness in C family of products. Runtime languages such as .NET and Java > have a spotty reputation too. Security is ultimately much more than the > language, but to my eyes Delphi starts with less weakness. > > · Deployment. Which is easier? > > · Single file vs a folder structure of hundreds of files – and > the issue of figuring which files of those files to deploy for a new > version. > > · Does the Delphi team sit comfortably alongside the .NET team ? > > · Yup, 3 teams using both. Each team prefers one or other, but > uses both. Remember Anders Hejlsberg designed both > > · Which product fits better with latest business strategies such > as IOT and Cloud ? > > · Everyone’s opinion varies according to what they know and like. > > · > > · Q3 – WPF - Yes with differences – merits in both > > · > > · Q4 – Credibility - refer surveys – latest TIOBE index has > Delphi at Number 11, at half to two thirds popularity of C#. Higher than > Objective C and Swift still. Java, C and C++ are still the biggest > > · > > http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index > > > > Q5 – IOT/Cloud - Delphi does Web Services, IIS and DBs, and cross compiles > to Win32, Win64, OSX, iOS, Android and linux server soon. Others can add > more specific cloud points. > > > > Q6 - Where - Europe seems strongest bastion of Delphi, but everywhere. > Maybe not India – they all want to seem to do SQL Server, C# and Oracle > there so they can get jobs in California. > > > > Q7 – Cost - Cost is reasonable to me. If it has to be free looks like > Free Pascal is a decent alternative too - never had to look at it myself. > > > > Q8 – Support - Mainly good. Generally resolve any issues within days or > hours – and its usually the way I’m doing it that is at fault > > > > Q9 – Developers - Mainly older developers tis true. But only mainly. > Some of them think that Delphi may still be going strong when C# fades from > popularity – mainly for the reasons of: > > > > a – its a good language (Thanks Nicholas Wirth – designed as a good formal > teaching language) > > > > b – its already cross platform, so competes with the biggies of C and Java > with advantages over each. > > > > *From:* Tony Blomfield <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2016 1:21 PM > > *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > <[email protected]> > > *Subject:* [DUG] Seattle questions > > > > I hope the group does not mind me asking a few business oriented questions > about Seattle. > > > > I have had Seattle since its original release, but so far have not used > it. I have become quite cynical about Delphi as a result of my XE2 > experiences. > > > > 1. I’d like to hear from anyone that is using Seattle in full > production, general thoughts about its features, and productivity. > > > > 2. If there is anyone also using .NET? It would be particularly > useful if they could compare from a *Business perspective* the pro’s and > cons. For example. > > > > · Which is more effective at producing finished product. (Faster > to market) > > · Which is more effective at meeting customer’s needs. (Faster > customisations) > > · Solution performance. Which is better. (How snappy is the > solution to use) > > · Security. Which is better. (.NET seems inherently flawed in > this respect) > > · Deployment. Which is easier? > > · Does the Delphi team sit comfortably alongside the .NET team ? > > · Which product fits better with latest business strategies such > as IOT and Cloud ? > > > > > > 3. Does Seattle have any comparative presentation layer to compete > with WPF ? Does anyone used it ? Does it support well MVVM ? > > 4. Market credibility for Delphi is low. Most International > Corporate clients have never heard of it, and those that have are very > cynical. How to overcome this marketing hurdle? > > > > 5. What is the Delphi developers strategy for Cloud deployment ? > > > > 6. Which country has the greatest penetration of Delphi Seattle ? > Where are the best developers available ? > > > > 7. How do you feel about the high cost of Delphi compared to VS ? > > > > 8. How is the support for Delphi ? User groups, and Embarcadero > maintenance contract ? > > > > 9. And finally: How is the market availability of Delphi > developers these days ? > > > > Thanks very much, > > > > Tony > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: [email protected] > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with > Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: [email protected] > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with > Subject: unsubscribe >
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