Hi, We've been gradually pulling ourselves up to the latest versions over the last few years and have reached Berlin 10.1. It's behaving pretty well on our software which is quite large and complex. I get less complaints about Berlin than I did any earlier version. In general I agree that a subscription makes sense, anyone who is running their business on Delphi should not begrudge the subscription amount and once you get up to date going to each new version is not too hard.
Having said that, the reason we aren't on Tokyo is that Andy Hausladen stopped producing IDEFixPack from Tokyo onwards (he did recompile it for Tokyo but something had changed and he doesnt own a copy of Tokyo so he didn't go any further - why Embarcadero hadn't just given him a free subscription by then is totally beyond me). We need IDEFixPack to make our compilation time at all reasonable - with IDEFixPack a full build is around 2 minutes, without it we were getting up to 20 or 30 minutes. We've done some work to reduce a few unnecessary cyclic dependencies since then but even so there is no way we are willing to use a version of Delphi which requires even twice the time Berlin does to compile. We've heard that Embarcadero are going to build Andy's performance fixes into the next version but we haven't seen any concrete evidence of this. Despite my advice above this may lead to us cancelling our subscriptions, there is little point in paying maintenance for new versions which we can't use. Regards, David. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Moorhouse Sent: Friday, 22 September 2017 8:37 a.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi 10.2 Tokyo ready for production? We've used it for in house apps deployed to enterprise users. We've also ported one of our apps to run under Mac OS - we used the Turbo Cocoa framework which allowed us to reuse/write the logic in Delphi and the UI in XCode. I've created a simple web broker app and deployed in on a Linux server but not in production yet. David David Moorhouse (BCom) | Principal Software Engineer - HealthOne Pegasus Health (Charitable) Ltd P: 03 353 0871 | W: www.pegasus.org.nz E: [email protected] PO Box 741, Christchurch 8140 401 Madras St, Christchurch 8013 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Bakuwel Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2017 1:09 p.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: [DUG] Delphi 10.2 Tokyo ready for production? Greetings all, I know of course that by picking this subject I might draw some criticism as it could be interpreted as implying that it might not be... I'm a one-man band only occasionally getting to develop an in-house application with Delphi, so even though I would love to do more Delphi development, it simply is not financially feasible to continuously upgrade not only Delphi but also the various 3rd party component suites. I'm sure this sounds familiar to at least some of you. I'm at that point (again) where I'm contemplating whether to request funding to upgrade from XE5 to Tokyo 10.2 or not, just having spend a fair amount of time debugging threading issues with the XE5 Firemonkey RTL (no fun and only partly resolved). Being able to target Linux server is something I've longed for a long time so that would be a bonus. Independent reviews of Delphi releases are hard to find (I wonder why) so I'll ask here if there's anyone here that would like to share their experience using Tokyo 10.2 for real world applications deployed on Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android and/or Linux server. Jan _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: [email protected] Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with Subject: unsubscribe **************************************************************************** **** This email or attachment(s) may contain confidential or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Any use, redistribution, disclosure, or reproduction of this message, except as intended, is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and erase all copies of the message, including any attachments. Any views or opinions expressed in this email (unless otherwise stated) may not represent those of Pegasus Health Ltd. **************************************************************************** **** _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: [email protected] Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with Subject: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: [email protected] Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected] with Subject: unsubscribe
