yeah I have noticed that. There are a few other too....cant think of whoo off hand tho :-)
I looked at lazarus a while back. I do off an on to see how it works with the latest Raspberry Pi. I am not sure it will replace Delphi for me, just because I find it a bit clunky. But I have not used it in anger and its prob. fine. :-) Jeremy On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 10:38 PM Jay Daley <j...@controlfreak.net> wrote: > Adrian > > I haven’t looked properly at Lazarus in a couple of years, but what I have > noticed recently is that TMS Software who make UI components I rely on, are > switching from making VCL/FMX specific components to their own FNC > framework which supports Lazarus+LCL as well as the usual > Delphi+VCL/WEB/FMX. > > Jay > > On 7/09/2020, at 4:01 PM, Adrian Williams <adr...@aerosupport.co.nz> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > As a pretty inexperienced Delphi developer, I've been reading the comments > about the cost of Delphi upgrades with some interest. I'm still using D7 > (no comments please!), mainly due to limited resources in obtaining a > current version in my current situation - it's a long story. > > But I would be interested in some constructive comments (no flame war > please!) on how something like Lazarus and FPC stacks up against modern > Delphi (Jan noted that open source is improving). > > Thanking you in advance for any helpful contribution. > > Regards > Adrian > > Jan Bakuwel wrote on 7.09.2020 3:38 p.m.: > > Hi Jeremy, Tony et al, > > It could well be that Delphi is being milked for the value that's left > in it and then gets dumped. It's a common strategy in a world where > equity firms main focus is on getting something for nothing. The whole > perpetual must-upgrade process is of course by design. A "breaking" > release once every 5 or even 10 years and an active strategy on fixing > bugs would indeed be very welcome. > > As you say, it is what it is. I'm not holding my breath. Fortunately the > alternatives are getting better every day, especially open source > platforms & frameworks. > > Jan > > On 7/09/20 10:40 am, Jeremy Coulter wrote: > > As much as I love Delphi, the component installation process has > always bugged me, but I just put it down to it just being one of the > things to deal with. It does mean you have to have a thinking about > and plan your upgrades, which is a good thing. > We heard back from Embarcadero and we didnt get very far with our pricing. > We have renewed out lics because we were running out of time, but I > suspect that this might be our last upgrade year as well. I cant speak > for other teams that use it at my workplace, but when we are getting > significant price breaks from M$ its just too hard to look my manager > in the eye when she sees the prices. > And look. I realise that M$ and Emb are at different ends of the > company size spectrum and M$ can prob. afford to do it, Its just a shame. > > Anyway, it is what it is. > > Jeremy > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 10:20 AM Tony Blomfield > <to...@precepthealth.com <mailto:to...@precepthealth.com> > <to...@precepthealth.com>> wrote: > > Greetings Jeremy, Jan et al. > > > > I have used Delphi since 1994 and completed at least 100 > successful projects. > > > > I agree with your comments below. IT is simply too expensive. I > use DevX, Report Builder, TChart Pro, and TRichview in addition. > The cost is simply far too high, and every new release means I > have to install all of the above which can take up to a week. > > > > The cost is simply too high. > > > > Delphi lacks the sort of rich functionality that I need, and so I > have to purchase these other tool sets. > > > > This could be fixed either by Embarcadero limiting their releases > to once every 5 years, or by working closer with these companies > closer. > > > > Consequently 10.4 is probably my last subscription to them sadly. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Tony Blomfield > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@listserver.123.net.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@listserver.123.net.nz with > Subject: unsubscribe > > > -- > *Adrian Williams Dip Aero Engineering* > Maintenance Controller > Aero Support > > <logo.jpg> > [t] +64 6 323-3279 > > [m] 021 161 1934 > [w] www.aerosupport.co.nz > <qrcode.png> > <adrian.vcf>_______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@listserver.123.net.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@listserver.123.net.nz with > Subject: unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@listserver.123.net.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@listserver.123.net.nz with > Subject: unsubscribe
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