The problem with anonymous edits is that it's really a spam honey pot :/

We tried this for our WiKis but the effort needed to maintain the black-list 
and to remove spam is not low.

LieGrue,
strub




>________________________________
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]; Mark Struberg <[email protected]> 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:05 AM
>Subject: Re: [suggestion] - Documentation
> 
>
>Hi,
>
>
>CMS should be fine for this requirements then it needs some work but offers 
>all the needed hooks.
>
>
>At least for consistency with other apache projects (a lot migrated to the 
>cms) i think it is good to use it.
>
>
>I know this topic will be frustrating for half of the people engaged here 
>since red hat and apahe guys doesn't currently use the same tools but i 
>think/hope nobody will feel frustrated once the doc will be in place.
>
>
>Side note: on openejb website we have an anonymous edit function (not sure it 
>is cms or openejb hook but in all case can be used in DS for sure) which is 
>pretty interesting for OS projects IMO.
>
>- Romain
>
>
>
>2012/7/25 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>
>David, the CMS is already set up and running (in SVN [1]). We just need a bit 
>more stylish css. 
>>
>>And you can perfectly create pdf docs out of markdown.
>>
>>Of course we can also use alternative formats. But to me this is like a 
>>colour preference - markdown is supported out of the box and provides all 
>>needed options.
>>
>>Shane, I don't think I bypassed anyone. We discussed this since 6 months and 
>>noone started working on it. Thus I finally dropped a mail and then 
>>implemented it. I also got no stop mail back then.
>>Honestly I really don't care which format we use, IF someone else is doing 
>>the work and others can easily add documentation.
>>
>>
>>LieGrue,
>>strub
>>
>>
>>
>>[1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/deltaspike/site/trunk/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>> From: David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Cc: Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [suggestion] - Documentation
>>>
>>>T he answer to both these questions really that the CMS creates
>>
>>> "websites", some details on that below
>>>
>>> I'll note that the CMS is svn based -- maybe undesirable given the use of
>>> git.
>>>
>>> On Jul 24, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Shane Bryzak wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Does the choice of Apache CMS for hosting documentation meet the following
>>> requirements?
>>>>
>>>>  1) Making available the documentation for previously released versions of
>>> DeltaSpike.
>>>
>>> If by "make available" the intention is browsable on the website, then
>>> sure there are ways to handle that.
>>>
>>>>  2) Making available the documentation in offline formats, such as HTML or
>>> PDF available for download.
>>>
>>> Certainly you can use the same source to generate non-website looking HTML. 
>>> Same goes for PDF.
>>>
>>> You wouldn't be using the CMS to do this, but the CMS doesn't prevent
>>> it.  It'd be something we setup ourselves and could be done via a CI server
>>> or something done at release time.
>>>
>>> Basically the CMS is a system that is for generate website html using the
>>> following layout:
>>>
>>> - content/<source-files-and-directories>
>>> - lib/<site-generating-perl-functions>
>>> - templates/<whatever-you-need-for-templates>
>>>
>>> When something in 'content/' is updated, it will run it through lib/
>>> (which leverages templates/) and save the resulting html to disk and take 
>>> care
>>> of synching that html file from staging to production.
>>>
>>> When something in 'lib/' or 'templates/' is updated, it pretends
>>> as if everything in 'content/' has changed and performs the above step
>>> on every source file.
>>>
>>> You can organize the 'content/' dir however you want.  That could mean:
>>>
>>> - content/v0.1/
>>> - content/v0.2/
>>> - content/current/
>>>
>>> Where 'current' gets versioned on release.  Or anything at all.  Maybe
>>> just:
>>>
>>> - content/<wild-wild-west>
>>>
>>>
>>> So the short answer is there isn't anything there to prevent or help the two
>>> points.
>>>
>>> In terms of generating outside the CMS which is what would be needed for 
>>> say,
>>> turning many files into one file such as a zip of html or a PDF, it's up to
>>> us.  There are projects that do it via buildbot.  Buildbot is not so much a 
>>> CI
>>> tool as it is "cron with a webUI" and also happens to have the ability
>>> to be trigger by commits.
>>>
>>> Really, you can get anything done with buildbot without much in the way of
>>> restrictions.  It's a mediocre CI system and an amazing cron replacement.
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>
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