hi charles,

thx for all the drafts!
for now the new site-design itself is the most important part imo
-> i would just use the first one (of your mail below).

regards,
gerhard



2012/8/9 Charles Moulliard <[email protected]>

> And different sizes : http://cl.ly/image/2R0J1G2S2S2e
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Charles Moulliard <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Other logos propositions --> http://cl.ly/image/3a2Q1c2i0i0E
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Charles Moulliard <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Here is the logo with different colors + letters in lower or upper case
> >>
> >> http://cl.ly/image/402W2h2A0L2s
> >>
> >> Personally I prefer in lowercase
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Charles Moulliard <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Here is what I have creatd myself : http://cl.ly/image/3p2V3e0U351f
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> yes, I really like the logo! Would be cool if you could find another
> >>>> spear or anything else.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> txs and LieGrue,
> >>>> strub
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >________________________________
> >>>> > From: Charles Moulliard <[email protected]>
> >>>> >To: [email protected]; Mark Struberg <
> >>>> [email protected]>
> >>>> >Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 10:27 AM
> >>>> >Subject: Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike Web site
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >I will try to find another spear or create one. Here is nevertheless
> >>>> what it could looks like : http://cl.ly/image/063p1Z1P1Z30
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >yes it seems that we cannot use this spear image :/
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>LieGrue,
> >>>> >>strub
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> From: Arne Limburg <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>> To: "[email protected]" <
> >>>> [email protected]>; Mark Struberg <
> [email protected]>
> >>>> >>> Cc:
> >>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:34 AM
> >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike Web site
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Hi,
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> The license is at least questionable:
> >>>> >>> http://classroomclipart.com/CRCLcopyright.htm
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I cannot see a sentence stating that we may use it for a logo of
> an
> >>>> open
> >>>> >>> source framework.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> And: We may not remove the watermark!
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Cheers,
> >>>> >>> Arne
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Am 09.08.12 09:29 schrieb "Charles Moulliard" unter
> >>>> >>> <[email protected]>:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> Hi Mark,
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> This is a free downloadable image (
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://classroomclipart.com/clipart-view/Clipart/Numbers/spear_jpg.htm)
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Charles
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]
> >
> >>>> >>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>>  Another question, Charles. What license does the spear you used
> >>>> have?
> >>>> >>> Is
> >>>> >>>>>  this a freely available image?
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>  LieGrue,
> >>>> >>>>>  strub
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>  >________________________________
> >>>> >>>>>  > From: Charles Moulliard <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >To: [email protected]
> >>>> >>>>>  >Cc: Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:09 AM
> >>>> >>>>>  >Subject: Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike Web site
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >Hi Romain,
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >I would prefer to keep it simple like now. Using deltaspike as
> >>>> the
> >>>> >>>>> handle
> >>>> >>>>>  should be doable but it will be difficult to use the Delta
> greek
> >>>> letter
> >>>> >>>>> for
> >>>> >>>>>  the spear as we have to contort it, extend it. ... and in
> >>>> consequence
> >>>> >>>>> the
> >>>> >>>>>  result will not be really beautifull and far away about the
> >>>> >>>>> concept/message
> >>>> >>>>>  that you would like to implement.
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >Regards,
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >Charles
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>> >>>>>  [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >the spear is fine,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>i'd like to see if we can get a spear with
> >>>> >>> "deltaspike" as handle and
> >>>> >>>>> the
> >>>> >>>>>  >>greek letter delta as spike
> >>>> >>>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>- Romain
> >>>> >>>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>2012/8/9 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> I like it.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> It's still not perfect, but I've seen logos _way_
> >>>> >>> worse ;)
> >>>> >>>>>  >>>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> LieGrue,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> strub
> >>>> >>>>>  >>>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > From: Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > To: [email protected]
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > Cc:
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 11:37 PM
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > Subject: Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike Web site
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > deltaspike is too linear IMO
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > we really wants to keep so much text.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > - Romain
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > 2012/8/8 Charles Moulliard <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  Here is a new proposition for the logo based on
> >>>> >>> Mark's remark :
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  http://cl.ly/image/3T1B1t030g2L
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Charles
> >>>> >>> Moulliard <
> >>>> >>>>>  [email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > Mark : Do you mean that you prefer that the
> >>>> >>> spear is placed
> >>>> >>>>>  under the
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > deltaspike name (but parallel) ?
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > I'm thinking about placing the spear
> >>>> >>> through the p letter
> >>>> >>>>> (like
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > the arrow
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > through a heart) but don't think that
> >>>> >>> it will be easy to
> >>>> >>>>> achieve
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > that
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  with
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > Gimp
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Mark
> >>>> >>> Struberg
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> nice one!
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> could you do the spear as
> >>>> >>> 'underline' having the
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > 'p' cross em?
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> LieGrue,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> strub
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > From: Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > To:
> >>>> >>> [email protected]
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Cc:
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 7:19
> >>>> >>> PM
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Subject: Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike
> >>>> >>> Web site
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Here is a suggestion with the
> >>>> >>> spear
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > http://cl.ly/image/2H2n2i2k1H3j
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM,
> >>>> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >
> >>>> >>> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
> >>>> >>> http://thepegasusrider.webs.com/Mace.jpg  and
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
> >>>> >>> http://www.symbols.net/guide/_images_greek1/Delta.png
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > for instance,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> no
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  (well these picts are not the
> >>>> >>> best but i hope it will
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > help to
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> understand
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  what i'm thinking of)?
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  - Romain
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  2012/8/7 Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > I cannot follow you. An
> >>>> >>> example will help us.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at
> >>>> >>> 5:07 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > <
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  [email protected]
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > delta and spike
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > - Romain
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > 2012/8/7 Charles
> >>>> >>> Moulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > What do you
> >>>> >>> mean by both part ?
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > On Tue, Aug 7,
> >>>> >>> 2012 at 5:03 PM, Romain
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > Manni-Bucau <
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
> >>>> >>> [email protected]
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > both part
> >>>> >>> can have a pict, i think
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > i'd prefer it
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > with a small
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > deltaspike
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > somewhere
> >>>> >>> just as a reminder
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > - Romain
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > 2012/8/7
> >>>> >>> Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > We
> >>>> >>> can use DSpike as name.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > On
> >>>> >>> Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:56 PM,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > <
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
> >>>> >>> [email protected]
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
> >>>> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>> Personally i'd prefer
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > something with as
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > few letters as
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  possible.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > Logo
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > with
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>> too much text needs to be
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > read :p
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>> - Romain
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>> 2012/8/7 Matt Benson
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  How about a syringe
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > with a feather in
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > it?  ;P
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  On Tue, Aug 7, 2012
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > at 9:39 AM, Charles
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Moulliard <
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
> >>>> >>> [email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > I would like to
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > come with a new
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > idea for the DeltaSpike
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  logo
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > Idea : Add a
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > spear/javellin to the
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > DeltaSpike name. By
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > example,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > we
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>> could
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > add it top of
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > the i letter
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > The spear
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > symbolizes the movement
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > and in certain way the
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > movement
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > represented by
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > action to inject
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > something in a Java Object.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > What do you
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > think about this ?
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > On Sun, Jul 15,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > 2012 at 11:09 PM,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> had a crazy
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > thought about the
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > log: DS should be a kind of
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
> >>>> >>> "superman"
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>> for
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> cdi and we
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > have the delta...and
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > the "S"pike...
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >
> >>>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~rmannibucau/graphic/ds-2.png
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> - Romain
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> 2012/7/6
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > Gerhard Petracek
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > hi @
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > all,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > i like
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > the basic idea of
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > [delta symbol] +
> >>>> >>> "spike".
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > imo
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > logos with
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >> nice< symbols are way
> >>>> >>> better than most
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > pure
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  text-logos.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > + as
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > soon as we have a
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > final name, we will get
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > professional
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  suggestions.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > regards,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > gerhard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > 2012/7/6 Mehdi Heidarzadeh
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > How about an "up
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > side down" triangle. (sth
> >>>> >>> unusual,
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > hackers
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > way
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>> ;) )
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > > --
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > Mehdi Heidarzadeh
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Ardalani
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > Independent JEE
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Consultant, Architect and
> >>>> >>> Developer.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > http://www.TheBigJavaBlog.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > --
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > Charles
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > Moulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > Apache Committer
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > / Sr. Pr.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Consultant at FuseSource.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > Twitter :
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > @cmoulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>  > Blog :
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > --
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
> >>>> >>> Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
> >>>> >>> Apache Committer / Sr. Pr.
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > Consultant at
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > FuseSource.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
> >>>> >>> Twitter : @cmoulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > Blog
> >>>> >>> :
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > --
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > Charles
> >>>> >>> Moulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > Apache
> >>>> >>> Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > FuseSource.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > Twitter :
> >>>> >>> @cmoulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > Blog :
> >>>> >>> http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > --
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > Apache Committer / Sr.
> >>>> >>> Pr. Consultant at
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> > FuseSource.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > Twitter : @cmoulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > Blog :
> >>>> >>> http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > --
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Apache Committer / Sr. Pr.
> >>>> >>> Consultant at FuseSource.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Twitter : @cmoulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> > Blog :
> >>>> >>> http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > --
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at
> >>>> >>> FuseSource.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > Twitter : @cmoulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  > Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  --
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at
> >>>> >>> FuseSource.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  Twitter : @cmoulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>  Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>> >
> >>>> >>>>>  >>>
> >>>> >>>>>  >>
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >--
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at FuseSource.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >Twitter : @cmoulliard
> >>>> >>>>>  >Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>  >
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> --
> >>>> >>>> Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >>>> Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at FuseSource.com
> >>>> >>>> Twitter : @cmoulliard
> >>>> >>>> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >--
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Charles Moulliard
> >>>> >Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at FuseSource.com
> >>>> >Twitter : @cmoulliard
> >>>> >Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Charles Moulliard
> >>> Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at FuseSource.com
> >>> Twitter : @cmoulliard
> >>> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Charles Moulliard
> >> Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at FuseSource.com
> >> Twitter : @cmoulliard
> >> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Charles Moulliard
> > Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at FuseSource.com
> > Twitter : @cmoulliard
> > Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Charles Moulliard
> Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at FuseSource.com
> Twitter : @cmoulliard
> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>

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