Mark, In this case it's about the related tooling that broke. Until JBIDE fixes this, users will end up with the wrong annotations in their code.
IMHO, I'm not saying no we can't change things like this, but if we do change them and there are known downstream impacts for tools that support DS we should let those tools know what we are doing before we make the change. John On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote: > nope, TLP only means maturity on the social/community side. > > For any users it's just a matter of 2 minutes doing a search/replace on > the imports and then rebuild their app. > That's nothing which we cannot do easily. > > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 10:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] re-visit "annotation" package/s > > > > I dont fully agree even if i get you. For a bunch of people tlp = > maturity > > = stability > > Le 2 avr. 2013 21:47, "Matt Benson" <[email protected]> a > > écrit : > > > >> I would agree with Gerhard that TLP and 1.0 are not necessarily linked > >> concepts. I would think most developers would not be surprised by the > idea > >> that any release number < 1.0 is not guaranteed not to change. > >> > >> Matt > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Cody Lerum <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> > Works for me. I was only using @Excludes and I can just switch to > >> @Typed() > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:57 PM, John D. Ament > > <[email protected] > >> > >wrote: > >> > > >> > > If that's the case, we should target it for 0.4 and forward. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau < > >> > [email protected] > >> > > >wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > +1 after first tlp release to be exact > >> > > > Le 2 avr. 2013 20:38, "John D. Ament" > > <[email protected]> a > >> > écrit : > >> > > > > >> > > > > Once DS is a TLP, we should try avoiding breaking > > integrations. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Gerhard Petracek < > >> > > > > [email protected] > >> > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > that can happen until v1 (and not until deltaspike > > is a tlp). > >> > > > > > (it was one of our first agreements.) > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > regards, > >> > > > > > gerhard > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > 2013/4/2 Romain Manni-Bucau > > <[email protected]> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Think people know ds is not yet a tlp so some > > instability is > >> fine > >> > > > IMHO > >> > > > > > > Le 2 avr. 2013 20:00, "Cody Lerum" > > <[email protected]> a > >> > écrit > >> > > : > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > One small problem is the early > > integration of DS into JBoss > >> > > Tools - > >> > > > > > > > > > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-13901 > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I don't know how many people if any > > are using that > >> integration > >> > > yet. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Pete > > Muir <[email protected]> > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > +1 to drop, I hate them. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On 1 Apr 2013, at 10:06, Christian > > Kaltepoth < > >> > > > > [email protected] > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > +1 for dropping > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2013/3/31 Cody Lerum > > <[email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> drop em. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at > > 10:35 AM, Mark Struberg < > >> > > > > > [email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >>> yes, let's drop > > them. annotations are like interfaces > >> > > > nowadays. > >> > > > > > So > >> > > > > > > > this > >> > > > > > > > > >> is > >> > > > > > > > > >>> just superfluous. > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>> LieGrue, > >> > > > > > > > > >>> strub > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>> ----- Original Message > > ----- > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> From: Gerhard > > Petracek <[email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> To: > > [email protected] > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> Cc: > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> Sent: Sunday, > > March 31, 2013 5:30 PM > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] > > re-visit "annotation" package/s > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> hi @ all, > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> we had an > > agreement to use a (sub-)package named > >> > > > "annotation" > >> > > > > > for > >> > > > > > > > all > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> our > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> annotations within > > a package. > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> however, it feels > > a bit clumsy if a package > >> (currently) > >> > > just > >> > > > > > > > contains > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> annotations. > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> e.g. > > org.apache.deltaspike.core.api.exclude only > >> > contains > >> > > > the > >> > > > > > > > package > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > "annotation". > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> currently we have > > a mixture (some parts are using the > >> > > > > > "annotation" > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> package > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> and some > > don't) > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> -> we have to > > align it the one way or the other. > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> i'm currently > > in favour of dropping the > >> > > > > "annotation"-package/s. > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> regards, > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> gerhard > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > > > > Christian Kaltepoth > >> > > > > > > > > > Blog: > > http://blog.kaltepoth.de/ > >> > > > > > > > > > Twitter: > > http://twitter.com/chkal > >> > > > > > > > > > GitHub: > > https://github.com/chkal > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >
