On Thu, 2014-10-16 at 09:34 +0200, Bert Wiest wrote: > Dear Richard, > > > but you won't mind if I give you some individual help? It helps develop > > Denemo to interact with users ... > > That's very kind ! > > > > There is View->Command Center where you can search for the word Title > > the commands that have this word in their description are stepped > > through and the location of the command given with any default short > > cut. > > The other approach - title for score-> go to score menu (you find > > Titles ...) > > title for movement -> go to movement menu > > etc - the layout tries to be logical ... > > OK, I get it! However, all the title commands do not seem to work properly if > I execute them from the command center. Thank you - I've filed this as a bug report http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?43424 it is executing the wrong command :(
> If I go through the second possibility you described, everything works > beautifully. Are you sure you really invoke the same commands for creating > title, composer etc if you use the two methods? I may just have been confused > by the long list in the command center which has several items "title" which > do different things... > > >> Second point, the triangles on the left are unhelpful to me. When I > >> hover with the mouse over them, I see useful mouseover text, but > >> that's not so practical. There is another character which is missing ... > > > > The mouseover text, called tooltips, are excessive at first, use > > Help->Turn Excessive Tooltips off/on when you don't need them. > > Oh no, I find them very helpful. I should have said, it is only the excessiveness that is turned off. > > > The "triangles on the left" are palettes, (for beginners to click on), > > you hide them by left clicking and Edit Palette. Just hide them as they > > are just to let people who are trying it out put in a few notes, change > > them etc., to give them confidence the program works. > > OK, I did that, you're right. However, what I pointed out was that all > palette buttons looked the same, which is unhelpful (just little triangles). > I noticed that there is a way to make them show the correct symbol: first > make each palette horizontal and then vertical again! I don't think this is > intended behavior. > > Some specific symbols still do not show up correctly on the main palette: > I moved the fermate, up-bow and down-bow symbols to the main palette, and the > buttons show up empty, > I had to fill them with text. Worse, I didn't manage to move more than one > articulation mark from the articulations- > to the main palette. I can move each of them to the main palette, but not > more than one of them can show up I guess what is happening is that the fonts bug is causing them to have the same label, so that they over-write each other. > at the main palette at any one time. > > At some point, Denemo crashed, and when I restarted, all my modifications to > the palettes had been forgotten! the modifications are written on exit, which doesn't happen if you (or something, in this case) kills the program. > However, this only happened to me once, I can't reproduce this bug. > > > try the latest 1.1.9 version > > http://denemo.org/~jjbenham/gub/uploads/denemo-0.0.0-0.darwin-x86.tar.bz2 > > I haven't had time to try that, yet. > > >> Fourth, when I try to quit without saving my work, Denemo always > >> crashes. > > > > before asking you what you want to do? Very strange, this is just normal > > activity until you say you want to quit without saving. > > No, after asking what to do. I say I really want to quit without saving, and > then it crashes. Actually, in the mean time I noticed that it also crashes if > I save my work and then quit - Denemo will not ask what to do, it will just > crash. To summarize, at the present time I do not know a way to exit Denemo > without crashing it. I see Jeremiah is thinking about that. so these are all the same problem - crash on exit. It is not so serious as crash before saving, something is not shutting down in an orderly fashion :( > Here is a new problem I encountered: if I want to write a crescendo "cresc" > somewhere in the score > (not followed by a horizontal line), I'm not sure how to do that! > I mark the note which should have the "cresc" with a "crescendo(Off/On)" I think you probably meant with Cresc (Off/On) here > > and then I mark a later note with the standard "end of crescendo", right? > On the work window I see both the word "cresc" and the < mark, is that > intended? yes, to distinguish it from what you get with Start Crescendo (Off/On) which starts a hairpin crescendo. It's a cruder indication than it needs to be I admit. > In the preview window I only see the word cresc, not the < mark, which is > what I want, > but I feel I am not using the "official" method for obtaining this effect. I think you forgot to mention what your problem was at this point ... you will get a ----- line if the start and end are far enough apart to need it. So if the effect you want to obtain is a single word "cresc" under a note without a dotted line then this is not the "official" way to get that. Rather, use Directives->Markings->Textual Annotation. (There are rather a lot of things you *could* use here, actually... it could do with simplification). But I'm amazed that you are willing to persist with a program that crashes on you - I would find that quite intolerable! Oh! - and do include the list in your reply, as means others will benefit from the explanations, and, who knows, may pluck up the courage to ask for help. Richard _______________________________________________ Denemo-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/denemo-devel
