I forgot to add the mailing list to this email. A further point I meant to mention is that we should generate the PDF without (large or any) margins. This is because the vast majority of uses of it are viewed on a screen, not paper. The margins are not useful and make the text more difficult to read.
On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 06:38 -0400, Cantor Stuart Binder wrote: > Richard, > > Attached is the newer version of denemo.css. All I have done for now is add a > little breathing room around the "note" boxes. I've put this in git now. > The version of denemo-manual.html in git looks good, but the one currently > posted on the denemo.org website has some problems (poor formatting and > strange characters). Were these from different exports? Under Documentation->Manual is a link to the current denemo-manual.html file in the source repository, this will display without finding denemo.css nor the images. I don't have write permission to that, so I have asked Eloi or Jeremiah to change it to point to the denemomanual.pdf file which will display properly. I have also changed the link on the Tutorials page to point to the pdf. > Also, please don't forget to pull out that is "delete temporarily"? I have deleted (temporarily) that numbering box thing, generated the html and checked that into git. I didn't spot the problem before but I hope it is fixed now. > the \pagenumbering command before doing the HTML export. The LyX HTML > exporter doesn't handle it properly (I haven't reported that to the LyX team > yet, but I will). There's a bit yellow note just above the command (at the > top of the Introduction section). > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Shann [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:35 AM > To: Cantor Stuart Binder > Subject: Re: Denemo User Manual (draft PDF) > > Oh - another thing, I see that Jeremiah has just fixed the denemo.css > installation thing (I presume so it is found at run time), did you want to > suggest an improved version of this file? > > Richard > > > On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 13:11 -0400, Cantor Stuart Binder wrote: > > Richard, > > > > See if this works. > > > > Stuart > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Richard Shann [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:54 AM > > To: Cantor Stuart Binder > > Subject: Re: Denemo User Manual (draft PDF) > > > > On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 23:03 -0400, Cantor Stuart Binder wrote: > > > Yes, I am doing a hand edit for now, > > > > that's just fine then - can you send me your clean exported-to-lyx 2.0 > > version so I can start editing with confidence? > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > but what I'm doing is so simple (basically substituting a custom > > > local CSS file for the remote one referenced in the HTML) that I > > > could probably create a script to do it. That might even eliminate > > > the need to remove the page numbering commands before generating the > > > HTML (I could have the script pull out the offending text after the > > > HTML file is exported). > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > From: Richard Shann <[email protected]> > > > Date: 06/10/2015 2:15 PM (GMT-05:00) > > > To: Cantor Stuart Binder <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: Denemo User Manual (draft PDF) > > > > > > On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 13:59 -0400, Cantor Stuart Binder wrote: > > > > Richard, > > > > > > > > Sorry... I didn't know you were using an older version. I have an > > > option to export to LyX 2.0 format, so exchanging the file shouldn't > > > be a problem in the future. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, that sounds good - can you send me such a version, so that we > > > can be sure I haven't introduced anything bad by my dodgy import? > > > I'll then do some editing and put it in the git repository. > > > > > > > I noticed the doubling up of images on HTML export as well. Not > > > > sure > > > why that happens, but (as you noticed) the original image references > > > still work. The images in the document root directory aren't used by > > > the HTML, only the images in the "images" directory. > > > > > > > I was planning on eventually replacing many of the images with > > > > newer > > > screenshots. > > > > > > > This will only be an issue for images we add to the document - so > > > at some point, we'll have to figure out how we're going to handle > > > the addition of new images. > > > > > > I think it is enough just to add them to the images directory, I > > > *think* > > > the makefile rules mean everything there is exported. > > > > > > > > > > > Again, if you want me to generate the final HTML and CSS for you > > > once you've edited the LyX file, > > > > > > > I can add the extra bit of formatting to the final HTML. > > > > > > That sounds good - is that some hand editing? (I'm thinking about > > > the quibbling that might arise if we generate something which can't > > > practically be done by people with free software - I included the > > > program that generated the source code for that piano brace that now > > > appears in the display(*) to avoid that sort of issue). > > > > > > Richard > > > (*) Have you had a chance to see this? The latest version > > > http://denemo.org/~jjbenham/gub/uploads/denemo-mingw-0.0.0.zip > > > should work perfectly for you - including simultaneous typesetting. > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Richard Shann [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:57 AM > > > > To: Cantor Stuart Binder > > > > Subject: Re: Denemo User Manual (draft PDF) > > > > > > > > I've been playing around with the .lyx file and I now understand a > > > bit better what will be involved. On exporting HTML it has to create > > > a directory full of files for the images as well as the .html file > > > itself. > > > > On the face of it, that would mean re-working the makefile system. > > > > However, the html file generated can be moved up into the original > > > docs directory where it picks up the original copies from the images > > > directory. (I wonder, is that the intended procedure - I notice > > > there is a further copy of the images directory in the lyx-generated > > > html directory, and that the file sizes differ..., I guess that > > > generally the lyx source can specify scaling etc to be performed on > > > the original images ...) I won't do any serious work on this until > > > we are sure how we can proceed though... > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 16:58 -0400, Cantor Stuart Binder wrote: > > > > > I am attaching the latest version of denemomanual.lyx. There's > > > plenty more I'd like to do, but I wanted to get this to you early so > > > we have time to work out any kinks before the release. There are a > > > few things to note: > > > > > 1. The Lyx notes (in yellow) are internal notes - they will not > > > > > be > > > included in the HTML or PDF output. > > > > > 2. You can do the export to HTML and PDF yourself if you want, > > > > > but > > > I have a few formatting tweaks I've been using to make the HTML look > > > a little better. If you prefer, I can generate and patch the HTML > > > version for you once you post the final Lyx file in the source repo. > > > > > 3. As you'll see in the file, I've tried to use the Typewriter > > > text style for all keyboard input (the first time you do it, select > > > Edit->Type Style->Customized from the menu and set the Family to > > > Typewriter. Thereafter, you can just highlight text you want to > > > format and use the "Apply Last" button on the toolbar). I'm sure I > > > missed at least a few. Ideally, I'd like to have a different style > > > for menu options, and possibly another for note names. > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Richard Shann [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 4:49 AM > > > > > To: Cantor Stuart Binder > > > > > Subject: Re: Denemo User Manual (draft PDF) > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2015-06-07 at 19:03 -0400, Cantor Stuart Binder wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely. When do you need it? I've been working on the Lyx > > > file - > > > > > > mostly formatting, and a little editing for clarity. > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I just sent the denemo.pot file off for the translators to > > > work on it. I think there are only two or three really active ones > > > at the moment, but I want to encourage them by giving them time to > > > bring their translations up to date before the release. If you could > > > send me your LyX file in a week's time say, I'll work on it for a > > > couple of days (*) and put it in the source repository. At that > > > point our timetable will be dominated by the success or otherwise of > > > Jeremiah's building of binaries (we have made releases without > > > binaries before now, but I think it causes problems to sites that > > > re-distribute the binaries). > > > > > It *is* somewhat urgent that we make a release - it looks like > > > > > the > > > previous release had threading bugs which can be very unpredictable > > > (on my system the worst thing was hanging on exit, but you reported > > > it crashing with continuous typeset turned on). So, on mature > > > consideration, I don't propose that we make this the major version > > > 1.3 with the re-written manual that the roadmap suggests, but just > > > whatever improvements we can make in the time available. > > > > > (BTW, the closest windows binary to what the release will look > > > like is at http://www.denemo.org/~rshann/denemo-1.2.3.zip this is a > > > portable, no-install version: it only lacks the sytem-brace-rework). > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (*) I will need to add a description of the new interface for > > > system > > > > > braces for example > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > > > > From: Richard Shann <[email protected]> > > > > > > Date: 06/07/2015 4:58 AM (GMT-05:00) > > > > > > To: Cantor Stuart Binder <[email protected]> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Denemo User Manual (draft PDF) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2015-05-10 at 22:17 -0400, Cantor Stuart Binder wrote: > > > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sending this privately so as not to clog up everyone's > > > inbox. > > > > > > > I still have some formatting to do, and I'm not really happy > > > with > > > > > > > the overall organization yet, but I have the whole thing in > > > LyX now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started the ball rolling towards this release - I was > > > wondering if > > > > > > we could include the LyX file you generated (and consequent > > > PDF) > > > > > > with it? > > > > > > I realise you may be busy right now, but if you send me a copy > > > I'll > > > > > > do something with it. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Denemo-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/denemo-devel
