Sounds nice! I will try that one. Thanks!

Richard Shann <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 24. Sep. 2015 um
15:37 Uhr:

> On Thu, 2015-09-24 at 09:02 +0000, Kevin Wenz wrote:
> >
> > With your help i got the result i needed. I hoped there would be a
> > simpler way (e.g. without copying the chorus' lyrics), but it works
> > that's most important :)
>
> Well, sparked off by your helpful question it now is much simpler - if
> you use the latest version (which will be version 2.0 shortly)
>
> http://denemo.org/~jjbenham/gub/uploads/denemo-mingw-0.0.0.zip
>
> you can start with precisely your file as a starting point and add verse
> and chorus movements alternately to the score layout, selecting the
> verse you want for each of the verse movements (by deleting the verses
> you don't want). A much more intuitive thing to be doing than creating
> dummy movements just to get the layout to have them.
>
> The only tricky bit is you have to set the titles, the page size and so
> on before starting on the layout. In particular, for the projector
> display you may want a custom aspect ratio for your score - certainly
> not the A4 portrait default!
>
>  Oh, and that version fixes a potential crash in the Command Center -
> there was one command which had an "&" character in its label, if you
> stopped on that it could crash!
>
> Richard
>
> >
> >
> > Thank you very much!
> >
> >
> > Richard Shann <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 17. Sep. 2015
> > um 10:56 Uhr:
> >
> >         On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 09:27 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> >         > Ok, I have stepped through how to do this:
> >
> >         Whoops! I didn't actually step through the last bit, adding
> >         titles, page
> >         breaks etc, else I would have remembered that you have to do
> >         that
> >         *before* creating the Score Layout. Once you have a score
> >         layout setting
> >         the titles has to be done within the score layout (it means
> >         each layout
> >         can have different titles and page breaks etc, which is
> >         usually needed).
> >
> >         Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >         >
> >         > First create Movement 1 with the music of the first verse
> >         and the lyrics
> >         > of the first verse
> >         > Then Movment 2 with music of chorus and chorus lyrics
> >         >
> >         > Then movements 3, 4, 5 ... with empty music and lyrics for
> >         verse 2,
> >         > lyrics for chorus, lyrics for verse 3, lyrics for chorus ...
> >         > respectively.
> >         >
> >         > Notice that you do, unfortunately have to keep pasting the
> >         chorus lyrics
> >         > - that is really a minor bug that you can't just refer to
> >         one set of
> >         > lyrics in the score layout.
> >         >
> >         > Once you have this set up you do View->Score Layout
> >         > Choose Customize and Replace the Default Score Layout.
> >         > Then you have to expand each movement, expand the staff,
> >         expand the
> >         > voice and Substitute the music. Starting with movement after
> >         the second
> >         > (chorus) you substitute the music from Movement 1 or
> >         Movement 2
> >         > depending on whether it is a verse or a chorus.
> >         >
> >         > This "substitute the music" is not as friendly as it could
> >         be, it
> >         > doesn't offer you a list of musics to choose, you have to
> >         edit the name
> >         > of the music: the name of the music is constructed like this
> >         >
> >         > \MvmntXXXVoiceYYY
> >         >
> >         > for movement XXX voice YYY
> >         >
> >         > so for example:
> >         >
> >         > \MvmntIVVoiceI
> >         >
> >         > is referring to Voice I of Movement IV
> >         >
> >         > You will always have VoiceI, and you will want the
> >         references to either
> >         > MvmntI for the verse or MvmntII for the chorus.
> >         >
> >         > The \ sign, by the way, is LilyPond's way of making a
> >         reference to that
> >         > music.
> >         >
> >         > Some things to be careful about: those large X buttons are
> >         delete
> >         > buttons, they can't be undone, so be especially careful if
> >         the Score
> >         > Layout window has gotten hidden behind the Display window,
> >         clicking on
> >         > the bit that is visible could spell disaster for your layout
> >         if the bit
> >         > visible is a delete button!
> >         > Second, once you have re-loaded the score you will only have
> >         the
> >         > LilyPond syntax to edit, this GUI interface is one-off only.
> >         Having said
> >         > that, the LilyPond editing is not very hard, if you look at
> >         the bottom
> >         > of the View->LilyPond window you will see all the movements
> >         each one a
> >         > block of text like this:
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > \score { %Start of Movement
> >         >  <<
> >         >
> >         > %Start of Staff
> >         > \new Staff = "Part 1"  <<
> >         >  \new Voice = "VoiceIMvmntIV"  {
> >         >   \clef treble
> >         > { \key c \major}
> >         > { \time 4/4 }
> >         >  \MvmntIVVoiceI                } %End of voice
> >         >
> >         > >>
> >         > %End of Staff
> >         >
> >         >         \new Lyrics = MvmntIVVoiceIVerseI
> >         >
> >         >         \MvmntIVVoiceIVerseIContext
> >         >
> >         > >>
> >         >
> >         > \header {
> >         > title = ##f
> >         > instrument = ##f
> >         >
> >         > }
> >         >
> >         > } %End of Movement
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > All that fiddling about with the Score Layout GUI in this
> >         case is just
> >         > replacing the line
> >         >
> >         >  \MvmntIVVoiceI                } %End of voice
> >         > with the line
> >         >  \MvmntIVoiceI                } %End of voice
> >         >
> >         > if it is the verse or with \MvmntIIVoiceI if it is a chorus.
> >         >
> >         > But I know some people just block-up when they see a page of
> >         > gobbledegook ...
> >         >
> >         > Then, of course you add title page, movement titles and page
> >         breaks
> >         > between movements all as usual. You may want landscape page
> >         setting if
> >         > it is for a wide projection screen...
> >         >
> >         > HTH
> >         >
> >         > Richard
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 21:46 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> >         > > It is late at night here, so I will just answer very
> >         briefly (more
> >         > > tomorrow)
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 20:06 +0000, Kevin Wenz wrote:
> >         > > >
> >         > > > Thanks for your answer!
> >         > > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > > The verses should be laid out underneath the notes and
> >         the notes
> >         > > > should be repeated for every verse/chorus.
> >         > > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > > If my song has a chorus and 2 verses it should look like
> >         that:
> >         > > > ---------------------------
> >         > > >
> >         > > > -- first page --
> >         > > >
> >         > > > Title of the song
> >         > > >
> >         > > > Copy right
> >         > > > ....
> >         > > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > > -- second page --
> >         > > >
> >         > > > contains: the text and the notes of the first verse (the
> >         verse's
> >         > > > syllables should be placed under each corresponding
> >         note)
> >         > > >
> >         > > > -- thirds page --
> >         > > > contains: the text and the notes of the chorus (again
> >         the text is laid
> >         > > > out under the notes)
> >         > > >
> >         > > > -- fourth page --
> >         > > > contains: the text and the notes of the second verse
> >         (again the text
> >         > > > is laid out under the notes)
> >         > > >
> >         > > > -- fifth page --
> >         > > > contains: the text and the notes of the chorus (once
> >         again the text is
> >         > > > laid out under the notes)
> >         > > > ------------------------------
> >         > > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > > Okay i have to use the 'Score Layout'.
> >         > > >
> >         > > > For now i have 2 movements (one for the verses and one
> >         for the
> >         > > > chorus). How can i change the order of the specified
> >         verses and the
> >         > > > chorus in the 'Score Layout'. The only things i am
> >         seeing are the
> >         > > > 'score-wide settings' and the two movements (the thing i
> >         can do is
> >         > > > changing the verses order inside a movement).
> >         > > >
> >         > > > Is it possible to add more movements and reuse the
> >         notes?
> >         > >
> >         > > Yes, that is one approach you can use, I'll do an example
> >         tomorrow.
> >         > >
> >         > > >  Do i have the wrong approach? Or do i maybe have to
> >         work with
> >         > > > lilypond commands?
> >         > >
> >         > > I'm sure it won't involve editing actual LilyPond - you
> >         have all the
> >         > > ingredients to hand.
> >         > >
> >         > > Richard
> >         > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > > Greetings
> >         > > >
> >         > > > - Kevin
> >         > > >
> >         > > >
> >         > > > Richard Shann <[email protected]> schrieb am Mi.,
> >         16. Sep. 2015
> >         > > > um 17:03 Uhr:
> >         > > >
> >         > > >         On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 15:32 +0100, Richard Shann
> >         wrote:
> >         > > >         > so unless you can
> >         > > >         > work editing that
> >         > > >         sorry, that was garbled, omitting the quoted bit
> >         renders it
> >         > > >         intelligible...
> >         > > >         R
> >         > > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
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