I do not feel like getting involved in Gnome3 debates. I'm running the Gnome2 based Mate desktop, and with reason.
Some remarks/observations, wrt. Gnome and wrt. Denemo. If you create a toolkit that is intensively used by numerous tools, you bear a certain responsibility to the developers of these tools. You can't just do as you please. Satisfying even 95% is not enough. If there are good reasons to deprecate tear-off menus and timed tooltips, then I expect a decent transition period (which Gnome3 has had, given that the deprecation started in 2012 or so) and guidelines for a good alternative. As I understand, there's currently no alternative to tear-off menus and timed tooltips. When software developers have spent numerous hours on a UI, it's not really helpful to state that the UI needs redesign. In the good old days there was a "Help" key (later the F1 key was used for this) on the keyboard that requested a help text for whatever object the cursur was on. In Denemo, F1 just calls the (start of the) manual in the browser. In any case there need to be a (global but application overridable) setting to control the initial delay before a tooltip pops up. The fact that subsequent tooltips pop up immedeately is a bug. Period. Denemo is overpopulated with tooltips. Everything (except for the main canvas) has tooltips. So there's almost no place where the tooltips (and the user) can come to rest. I'd suggest to drop the "This is the menu bar" and "This is the tool bar" (and so on) tooltips. Also, the tooltips on the textual objects. A tooltip "Adding deleting navigating measures" is not really helpful on a menu item "Measures". "Menu named Booktitles located at /ObjectMenu/Score/Titles/BookTitles" is definitely not helpful. -- Johan _______________________________________________ Denemo-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/denemo-devel
