Thank you Andreas and Richard.

I think I now understand the double hyphen - it appears as a hyphen in gaps but is suppressed when space is limited. And the words were misplaced - I was trying to get the music fixed first.

And today's Windows download is not producing any problems.

Just one thing. I'd like movement 2 to be in 4 lines with line-breaks in the middle of bars (e.g, in verse 1 after Lord, Name and Lord) I've tried insert line break which gives a warning that it won't work and that I should use Allow Page/Line Break.

But alone Allow Page/Line Break does not work. Neither does it seem to enable the normal line break (as its name indicates that it should, especially if I check the box that says apply condition to all further cases in this staff!)

I have probably missed something, but this seems to be something that a relatively naive user might want to do even without combing the Manual (which in this case doesn't help!)

Joe



On 29/01/2017 20:41, Andreas Schneider wrote:
Am 29.01.2017 um 20:56 schrieb Richard Shann:
On Sun, 2017-01-29 at 17:58 +0000, Joe Wilkinson wrote:
Hi Richard,
I can't change the initial time signature in this (edited version of
previous file)
I have just duplicated the single movement from the previous version and
copied across some lyrics and deleted the skip syllables.

Movement 1 seems OK - just a single response line.
Having removed all the notes associated with the skips in Movement 2 -
the verses - I have then removed the empty measures.
Then I have tried, three times to change the initial time signature, and
Windows10 has reported an error and closed Denemo.
I've looked over this file and it seems quite innocuous, and indeed I
can change the initial time signatures just fine. I enclose the result
of doing just that just so you can see.
I think you must have a dodgy build of Denemo. I have come across a bug
in the handling of lyrics with Undo, so try tomorrow's build.
I have noticed that in the lyrics you did not use the Lilypond syntax
for dashes. Usually dashes a typeset with -- . For instance for your
first line:
The Lord is com -- pas -- sion and love, slow to an -- ger and rich in
mer -- cy.
Moreover, there is a convention for vocal music that eight notes (and
sixteenth etc.) are typeset with beams if there is a melisma and without
beams if you sing separate syllables. Following this convention, the
eight notes in bars 8 and 11 of the second movement should be typeset
without beams. I usually use the Stop Beaming directive (under
Directives > Typesetter) for vocal music and do manual beaming where
melismata are present.
Attached you find a version of your score where I have applied these
changes. Might it be that also some of the lyrics are mapped to the
wrong notes?

Andreas


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