I meant to include a sample - attached Richard On Sun, 2023-08-06 at 08:45 +0100, Richard Shann wrote: > On Sat, 2023-08-05 at 11:49 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote: > > 1 - I copied ALL of the notes/etc from AFTER the time signature > > 2 - I deleted the entire staff > > 3 - I added a new staff -- it seems the initial staff was already > > set > > to 'bass' > > > [...] > > > > And when attempting to change to Treble Clef, > > > > > > Do you mean to change the initial clef to a Treble Clef or to > > > insert a > > > clef change. > > > If the former, then this problem with the "Initial Clef" command > > > kicks > > > in - it doesn't know about Drum clef and makes a mess. You have > > > to > > > use > > > Clef Chooser with the cursor at the start of the staff. > > > If the latter, that is uncharted territory ... > > So from you pictures I gather it is the latter you are seeking to > achieve, i.e. change from percussion clef to a treble clef in the > course of the music. This is uncharted territory but: > > The "Drum" option in the clef chooser not only sets the percussion > clef > but also fixes the position of Middle C on the staff. > Instead use the "LilyPond" option from the Chooser and set the clef > as > percussion (all lower case). > This then gives you the LilyPond percussion clef, which assigns the > middle line of the staff to Middle C. To make the display correspond > to > this insert a Display Only Clef at the start of the music using the > command > > Command: Display Only Clef > Inserts a clef that affects only the display, not the printed form. > Use > this if, after a Change Staff, the staff the voice will be on is in a > different clef (avoiding too many ledger lines in the display, making > it hard to read). Also useful to display in a familiar clef music > which > you want to be printed in a less familiar one (e.g. display in treble > or bass clef music to be printed for viola). > Location: Object Menu ▶ Clefs > Internal Name: SetDisplayClef > > and choosing Alto clef (which has Middle C on the mid line of the > staff, so that matches LilyPond's percussion staff). > > Then the note positions you enter will match those of the percussion > staff in the typeset. > > HTH > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > the notes appear 2 > > > > > > > > octaves higher in Print View than on Score View. Also, when > > > > attempting to > > > > change back to Percussion Clef, either the clef does not > > > > appear, > > > > or > > > > the > > > > command does not function. > > > > > > The above is surely a consequence of this inadequate "Initial > > > Clef" > > > command. If you start afresh(*) and avoid using it (using Clef > > > Chooser > > > instead), do you find anything that fails to do what you need? > > > > > > Richard > > > (*)well, you don't literally have to start afresh, you can invoke > > > the > > > staff properties editor (Alt-Return) and delete the two Denemo > > > Directives that support Drum clef... > > > > > > > I've attached the denemo file to the work in progress. It's > > > > line > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > D o n a l d J S t e w a r t > > > > s o u n d - X > > > >
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