-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> > On Sep 24, 2004, at 10:27 PM, Jennifer B Machovec wrote: > > Traditionally, the only time we distribute code under someone else's > copyright is when we are including other works as a convenience for our > users, such as packaging something in a distribution. Otherwise, we > tend not to host projects owned by other entities. Sourceforge is good > for that. Incorrect. Individual CLAs do not assign copyright to ASF, only a copyright licence. Thus ASF is all the time distributing code that it does not hold the copyright on. Code is distributed under a licence, the ASL for projects at ASF, not a copyright. See Roy's e-mail on the [email protected] list http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgNo=4143 For corporate initial code contributions (software grants) to ASF (like Derby & Beehive) I'm not sure if it's common to assign copyright to ASF or not. The generic software grant agreement at http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt does not assign copyright to ASF. As Noel has said, this copyright issue is not specific to Derby. Derby has indirectly raised the issue that those copyright ASF statements in other ASF projects may actually be incorrect, and thus cause potential legal problems for the ASF in the future. They may be incorrect because ASF does not hold copyright on the code, therefore why is it copyright ASF? A possibly correct claim is that ASF holds copyright on the collection of contributions that make up a project. (See this e-mail for BEA's Senior Counsel's viewpoint) http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgNo=4151 I think this issue has been raised now because given the current climate, driven by SCO vs. IBM, it is important that IP issues are handled correctly. Derby is being distributed under the ASL v2 and will be like other ASF projects in that copyright will be held by a number of parties. Going with the ASF holds copyright on the collection that is the project, we have a proposed comment in each file that is as follows. For some reason that I don't understand Roy seem to object to this and the proposed notice file contents, though it may have been due to the addition of the term "All rights reserved" (which I do not believe we need). (see 1) in http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html) (see http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#noc no mention of requiring all rights reserved) Dan. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Apache Derby � Copyright 2004 The Apache Software Foundation. Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance with the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for the specific language governing permissions and limitations under the License. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBVuI0Iv0S4qsbfuQRAjV/AKC6f2BYL5fdy+uGAKH/tTZuc+bgVACfdZ2A YTFDtI+SAp6N2TawGvHSiWE= =wybq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
