I wasn't clear what the bat files were doing with the command 'saxon'. This is due to the command being instant saxon, which is a stripped down version of saxon (only in terms of samples, source, documentation ). So saxon.exe is the xslt processor according to the web site.

I didn't have time last week to follow what 'saxon.exe' was; so got the bat files modified, but got lost on the saxon command.

You were saying that the pdf file output was rather bad. I wasn't certain if this was due to missing items that need to be in the final document, or if it was something else? I have been a bit busy getting some information needed in some different areas so I could be a bit more fluent in this area.

scott

Jeff Levitt wrote:

--- scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So at this point, I think we should do a manual
transforms -> html and see what the problems are. Jeff has found the
parent child problem, which is what forrest uses by default to create the
website. I'm certain he has found others. Then focus on the pdf
files. I think Jeff has already done that. I'm looking at the dita-dtd
stuff currently. Jeff, were you using the XSLT Scripts referenced in
the dita XSL-README.txt? Also, we might want to see if any
more information on the subject is publicly available.


A good case study that might get someone up a bit
faster with a bit of good background information might be:


http://xml.coverpages.org/DITA-LeslieSIGDOC2001.pdf
"Transforming Documentation from the XML Doctypes
used for the Apache Website to DITA: a Case Study" by Donald M Leslie.


I am sure a bunch more exist, as when I was looking
around I found a lot of use and papers on the subject.
scott





Cool link Scott! It looks like they had the same problems with the PDF using FOP that I did. It just doesnt look very professional. Thats why I think we need someone who is saavy with XSL to fiddle with our transformations to fix that up, if possible.

Yes, I used the XSLT scripts that came with the dita
download. Specifically, I have toyed with using
map2EclipseAll.xsl for the xhtml transform (great for
creating xhtml output that gets used in a potential
Eclipse information center), and map2WebHTMLTOC.xsl to
create a nice html table of contents that links to the
xhtml files. For the PDF, I use topicmerge.xsl to
create one file, dita2fo_shell.xsl to create a .fo, and then FOP for a .ps file, and then distill the .ps
output with Acrobat. Lots of problems with this
process, as I'll mention later in this note...


I think dita2fo_shell.xsl was recommended in that
XSL-README.txt file, but the others I used based on my
own experimentation.  If you do go the eclipse
infocenter route, you need to do more than just create
the xhtml files.  You also need an XML nav tree file,
the html one wont work in Eclipse.  So in that case, I
think I just used map2EclipseTOC.xsl to create the xml
file.

I created some batch files for Windows (Linux users,
any volunteers for creating similar Linux
versions?)that you can use to rapidly create these
outputs. They are for use with saxon.  I'm attaching
them to this note.  To use these, place them in your
saxon install directory, and place the getting started
guide dita files in a directory called
"gettingstartedguide".  Also, place the dita package
files in the saxon hierarchy.  For example, place the
xsl files from the dita package in an xsl directory
right there in the saxon install directory.  Then just
run the batch files from the command line.  Here's a
description of each batch file:

ditahtml.bat
This one creates xhtml, and also an html table of
contents file called getstartmap.htm that you can use
to navigate the xhtml files.  The batch file creates a
temporary file during the transform process that
basically removes a part of one of the xsl files that
was causing some formatting problems in some of the
reference topics.

ditaeclipse.bat
This one creates the same xhtml files as the last one,
but it then creates an xml table of contents, instead
of the html one.  This is ideal for creating an entire
set for use with an Eclipse infocenter.

I wanted to create a batch file for the PDF transform,
but for some reason, I'm having problems with the
topicmerge.xsl file in my batch files.  This is a
necessary step in order to create one PDF file for the
entire book instead of many.  The problems with the
topicmerge.xsl file also prevent me from making a
batch file to create one large html file for the
entire book.  The problem seems to be that the result
of the topicmerge transform is a dita file that looks
invalid.  If someone wants to play around with this,
if you are more successful than me then please post
any solutions you find!  I'm going to continue to play
with it and see if I can get a working transform.

Finally, Scott mentioned errors in the html output. The first one, as he mentioned, is the missing
parent-child links problem. The only other problem
I've found is that any links to other topics have
trouble pulling the names out of the conrefs file. So
for example, if there is a topic that is called
"Welcome to Derby", it pulls the word "Derby" from the
gsconrefs.dita file perfectly, but if another topic
tries to link to that topic, the link says "Welcome to
" with the word Derby missing.






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@echo off


echo writing temporary file.. if exist TEMPyfsd89.XSL del TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^<xsl:stylesheet version="1.0" >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform"^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^<xsl:import href="xsl/map2EclipseAll.xsl" /^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^<xsl:template name="gen-sect-ptoc"^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^<!-- no ptoc necessary --^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^</xsl:template^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^</xsl:stylesheet^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL

echo running XSLT..
saxon -o getstartmap.htm -w1 "gettingstartedguide/getstartderby.ditamap" 
TEMPyfsd89.XSL SRCEXT=dita
echo running XSLT2..
saxon -o getstartmap.xml -w1 "gettingstartedguide/getstartderby.ditamap" 
"xsl/map2EclipseTOC.xsl"

echo cleaning up..
del TEMPyfsd89.XSL

echo done.



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@echo off


echo writing temporary file.. if exist TEMPyfsd89.XSL del TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^<xsl:stylesheet version="1.0" >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform"^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^<xsl:import href="xsl/map2EclipseAll.xsl" /^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^<xsl:template name="gen-sect-ptoc"^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^<!-- no ptoc necessary --^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^</xsl:template^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL echo ^</xsl:stylesheet^> >>TEMPyfsd89.XSL

echo running XSLT..
saxon -o getstartmap.htm -w1 "gettingstartedguide/getstartderby.ditamap" 
TEMPyfsd89.XSL SRCEXT=dita
echo running XSLT2..
saxon -o getstartmap.htm -w1 "gettingstartedguide/getstartderby.ditamap" 
"xsl/map2WebHTMLTOC.xsl"

echo cleaning up..
del TEMPyfsd89.XSL

echo done.






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