Jeremy Boynes wrote:

I would like to explore the possibility of running multiple Derby instances in the same JVM, probably in different classloaders.

You use the term "Derby instance" but I'm not sure what you mean here.

Based on a discussion I had with Dan, a Derby "system" is the union of all databases running under the same classloader. Is that what you mean? Each system is supposed to have its own configuration. But I had trouble figuring out how to do this with multiple classloaders (see your system properties discussion below), and nowhere do I see this tested currently.

I thought Dag, with Kathey's help, was able to configure things such that you could have different Derby properties set for different databases in the same VM. Dag, how did that work again?


One use for that is an application server configuration where different applications may require different versions of Derby or where different instances may have different requirements e.g. for security.

Two big issues come to mind:
1) use of system properties
   I would like to explore ways in which these can be replaced with a
   per-instance configuration mechanism where each instance can have
   separate properties. This could be as simple as a per-classloader
   static property map but ideally something a little more flexible
   would be useful

Well, I would love us moving to JMX. It would solve a lot of problems around configuration for us, and it would also enable management by nice pretty GUIs, integration into larger systems managed by JMX (e.g. most app servers), etc.

I recognize this a change with system-wide impact which can not be taken upon lightly. We'd also have to do it in a way that is pluggable, JMX is not something I expect is part of J2ME...

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2) common touch point in DriverManager, especially for use within
   stored procedures.
   I think we can do something here with a special Driver implementation
   that could handle multiple engine instances which I think makes this
   related to David Van Couvering's common jar discussion.

I don't understand this point, could you explain further?

That said, I do agree if what you are discussing involves multiple classloaders, then I think there is some crossover here and we should talk to make sure I don't design something that will require rework later on to support what you are envisioning here.

David


Thoughts?
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Jeremy

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