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Mike Matrigali commented on DERBY-532:
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sorry to add the confusing note about serializable scan, as I actually don't 
think there is a problem
with that part of the implementation.

I believe it is wrong in the example I asked about above, the deferrable 
constraint/deferred case, for an insert to block ever if there are no 
serialized scans in the system.  The current patch insures this
behavior and will continue to insure this behavior even if we figure out how to 
release the "extra" 
previous key lock.   

Any implementation that tries to do a check previous to the insert is likely to 
suffer from this issue, which is one of
the reasons I still think it would be better to always to do the check after 
the insert, and not try to do any 
duplicate prevention locking schemes that are likely to present unintuitive 
concurrency issues to the 
application.

> Support deferrable constraints
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-532
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-532
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: SQL
>            Reporter: Jörg von Frantzius
>            Assignee: Dag H. Wanvik
>              Labels: derby_triage10_11
>         Attachments: deferredConstraints.html, deferredConstraints.html, 
> deferredConstraints.html, deferredConstraints.html, derby-532-import-1.diff, 
> derby-532-import-1.status, derby-532-import-2.diff, derby-532-import-3.diff, 
> derby-532-import-3.status, derby-532-more-tests-1.diff, 
> derby-532-more-tests-1.stat, derby-532-serializable-scan-1.diff, 
> derby-532-serializable-scan-2.diff, derby-532-serializable-scan-2.stat, 
> derby-532-syntax-binding-dict-1.diff, derby-532-syntax-binding-dict-1.status, 
> derby-532-syntax-binding-dict-2.diff, derby-532-syntax-binding-dict-2.status, 
> derby-532-syntax-binding-dict-all-1.diff, 
> derby-532-testAlterConstraintInvalidation.diff, 
> derby-532-testAlterConstraintInvalidation.status, derby-532-unique-pk-1.diff, 
> derby-532-unique-pk-1.status, derby-532-unique-pk-2.diff, 
> derby-532-unique-pk-3.diff, derby-532-unique-pk-3.status, 
> derby-532-xa-1.diff, derby-532-xa-2.diff, derby-532-xa-3.diff, 
> derby-532-xa-3.status
>
>
> In many situations it is desirable to have constraints checking taking place 
> only at transaction commit time, and not before. If e.g. there is a chain of 
> foreign key constraints between tables, insert statements have to be ordered 
> to avoid constraint violations. If foreign key references are circular, the 
> DML has to be split into insert statements and subsequent update statements 
> by the user.
> In other words, with deferred constraints checking, life is much easier for 
> the user. Also it can create problems with softwares such as 
> object-relational mapping tools that are not prepared for statement ordering 
> and thus depend on deferred constraints checking.



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