Thanks for that feedback, Brett. Sounds like it might be good for me to move the tool into the product as a full-fledged optional tool and then write some documentation for it. Your feedback is invaluable.

Thanks,
-Rick

On 8/8/16, 8:16 AM, Bergquist, Brett wrote:
I don't know if we need to relax the security restrictions on the tool or not 
or just document the issue and the work around.   It was disconcerting when 
trying to get the tool to run as I thought I had another corrupt issue.   The 
work around was pretty easy to do once I know what the issue was.

As for using the "SYSCS_UTIL.SYSCS_EXPORT_QUERY" procedure, I had not even 
thought of that.   I was under a time crunch to figure out if it would be possible to 
recover from the corruption and I was pretty much blindly following along with the 
comments and instructions in the https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-6136 tool.  
I even used the prebuilt JAR that was attached to the issue as I really did not know how 
to go about building this tool.

I still don't know how to go about building the tool so maybe some 
documentation on how to do that would be useful.

Here is what my existing IJ script looked like, so I was using just a "select" to get the 
data.  I did not even realize I could call that procedure on the "RAW_" schema.

bash-3.2# less extractdata.sql

connect 'jdbc:derby:memory:db;create=true';

create type serializable external name 'java.io.Serializable' language java;

call syscs_util.syscs_register_tool
(
'customTool',
true,
'RawDBReader',
'CONTROL',
'RAW_',
'/opt/canoga/canogaview/glassfish/databases/csemdb',
null,
'CSEM',
'CSEM'
);

select ID, DTYPE, OPLOCK, RELATIVE_POSITION, ALIAS_NAME, DESCRIPTION, 
DEVICE_NAME, PARENTENTITY_ID FROM RAW_CORE_V1.DEVICE_ENTITY;


extractdata.sql (END)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Hillegas [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 10:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Need some help in trying to figure out a corrupt database

Hi Brett,

I'm glad to hear that this tool was useful on an old database. Some comments 
inline...

On 8/7/16, 5:33 PM, Bergquist, Brett wrote:
Mike, Rick, Bryan, others.   There was definite corruption in one page for one 
table:

421677     |HARDWARE                                                        |1  
        |3     |NULL

|NULL

                                                               |Console Port
                                                                                
                                                         |421672
NULL       |NULL                                                            |0  
        |-1    |^@^@^@^@~$

|^@^@^@^@ ^@^@
                                                                         
|^@^@^@^@^@^@

|NULL WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field data. Offset = 65,
length = 2, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 0 on page 32325
in file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState):
Error reading field data. Offset = 123, length = 4, datatype =
VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 1 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat:
java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field
data. Offset = 139, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in
record 2 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null
WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field data. Offset = 155, length
= 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 3 on page 32325 in file
cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error
reading field data. Offset = 171, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64):
Field 0 in record 4 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat:
java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field
data. Offset = 187, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in
record 5 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null
WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field data. Offset = 203, length
= 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 6 on page 32325 in file
cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error
reading field data. Offset = 219, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64):
Field 0 in record 7 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat:
java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field
data. Offset = 235, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in
record 8 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null
WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field data. Offset = 251, length
= 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 9 on page 32325 in file
cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error
reading field data. Offset = 267, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64):
Field 0 in record 10 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat:
java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field
data. Offset = 283, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in
record 11 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null
WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field data. Offset = 299, length
= 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 12 on page 32325 in
file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState):
Error reading field data. Offset = 315, length = 4, datatype =
VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 13 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat:
java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field
data. Offset = 331, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in
record 14 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null
WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field data. Offset = 347, length
= 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 15 on page 32325 in
file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState):
Error reading field data. Offset = 363, length = 4, datatype =
VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 16 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat:
java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field
data. Offset = 379, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in
record 17 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null
WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field data. Offset = 395, length
= 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 18 on page 32325 in
file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState):
Error reading field data. Offset = 411, length = 4, datatype =
VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 19 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat:
java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field
data. Offset = 427, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in
record 20 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null
WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field data. Offset = 443, length
= 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 21 on page 32325 in
file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState):
Error reading field data. Offset = 459, length = 4, datatype =
VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in record 22 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat:
java.io.EOFException: null WARNING (no SQLState): Error reading field
data. Offset = 475, length = 4, datatype = VARCHAR(64): Field 0 in
record 23 on page 32325 in file cb340.dat: java.io.EOFException: null
...

This was extracted using the tool from:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-6136

Mike, I believe your idea about retrieving all from the index when selecting 
individually is probably true.

I believe the corrupt occurred when bug

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-6879

was hit and one or more transaction log files were removed.  Although
it is pointed out that doing so can and probably will cause
corruption, when you have a 500+ GB database with 18K transaction log
files to process at startup which will take multiple days to complete
and the most recent backup also backed up this condition, it was
unavoidable ;)

Using the tool from

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-6136

I was able to dump the data, destroy the table, re-format and re-import the 
data with SYSCS_UTIL.SYSCS_IMPORT_TABLE.  From that I was able to determine 
what appeared to been in progress and what the corruption was related to 
(deletion of various rows) and was able to manually cleanup references to those 
rows.

So the tool was a life saver in this case.  I did run into an issue with it in that it 
tries to access conglomerate "c470.dat" this did not exist and this mapped to 
SYSUSERS in other databases.  This is old database that has been through many upgrades of 
Derby on it.  I was able to copy that conglomerate from another newly created database 
just to let the tool continue which it did.
Some effort was put into making the tool respect the existing security 
mechanisms of the database. It should be easy to relax this particular check. 
We could read the database version from the property conglomerate and skip this 
hurdle if the version is before 10.9, the release which introduced NATIVE 
authentication and the SYSUSERS table.
A possible enhancement of the tool would be to output the data in a format that 
can be imported by SYSCS_UTIL.SYSCS_IMPORT_TABLE.  I was able to use Perl to 
reformat the data for import but not having to do so would be beneficial.
What is needed beyond chaining the tool together with the 
SYSCS_UTIL.SYSCS_EXPORT_QUERY procedure (see 
http://db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.12/ref/rrefexportselectionproc.html)?

Thanks,
-Rick
I truly appreciate all of the help and suggestions!

On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:34 AM, mike matrigali<[email protected]>   wrote:

I agree with bryan's first suggestions, more info from derby.log
would help.  If it is possible just posting it currently might help
(one from debug with line numbers even better). i would suggest filing a JIRA 
and posting info and moving discussion there.

Some other questions/suggestions.
o can you tell us more about the ddl, i have not used describe much.  What i am 
looking mostly for is if there are any unique keys.
o what exactly are the indexes that you have on this table?  what i am looking 
for is what columns are in the indexes.
o look at the query plans for the queries that you are running, both the ones 
that are working and the
     ones that are not.   what i am looking for is if the optmizer has been able to run 
some queries as "covering" which means it gets
     all the values from the index and never goes to the base table.
o if indexes are being used you might try using the optimizer hints to force 
index or force not index to better understand where
     corruption is.

on the ordering question, it depends on the answers to the above.   If indexes 
are used the ordering is going to be different
for each.   A base table scan should theoretically give same order for each 
scan as long as there is no updates happening.

does anyone know if describe prints the columns in the order they are actually 
stored in the db?

if you have unique keys and the indexes are good, there may be some ways to 
better get at the data.

/mikem

On 7/27/2016 7:16 AM, Bergquist, Brett wrote:
I wrote a tool to call SYSCS_UTIL.SYSCS_CHECK_TABLE on each table in the 
database and not just stop on error.

I have a database returns the error:

         Checking CORE_V1.DEVICE_ENTITY failed with exception:
Restore of a serializable or SQLData object of class , attempted to
read more data than was originally stored

The table has 1261157 rows in it.   I can query each of the columns in the 
table individually like:

          SELECT ID FROM CORE_V1.DEVICE_ENTITY;
          SELECT DTYPE FROM CORE_V1.DEVICE_ENTITY;
          ...
          SELECT DESCRIPTION FROM CORE_V1.DEVICE_ENTITY;

These all return 1261157 rows for each select result.

If I select multiple columns such as

          SELECT ID, DTYPE FROM CORE_V1.DEVICE_ENTITY;

Then I get:

ERROR XSDA7: Restore of a serializable or SQLData object of class ,
attempted to read more data than was originally stored ERROR XJ001: Java 
exception: ': java.io.EOFException'.
ij>

The table schema looks like:

ij>    describe core_v1.device_entity;
COLUMN_NAME         |TYPE_NAME|DEC&|NUM&|COLUM&|COLUMN_DEF|CHAR_OCTE&|IS_NULL&
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DTYPE               |VARCHAR  |NULL|NULL|64    |NULL      |128       |YES
OPLOCK              |INTEGER  |0   |10  |10    |0         |NULL      |NO
RELATIVE_POSITION   |SMALLINT |0   |10  |5     |NULL      |NULL      |YES
ALIAS_NAME          |VARCHAR  |NULL|NULL|255   |NULL      |510       |YES
DESCRIPTION         |VARCHAR  |NULL|NULL|255   |NULL      |510       |YES
DEVICE_NAME         |VARCHAR  |NULL|NULL|255   |NULL      |510       |YES
PARENTENTITY_ID     |INTEGER  |0   |10  |10    |NULL      |NULL      |YES
ID                  |INTEGER  |0   |10  |10    |NULL      |NULL      |NO

8 rows selected

I am trying to figure out how to recover and correct this table.   Once thought 
is to query each column separately and then join the output externally back 
together and re-import the data.   I wonder however if I query each column if 
the order of the rows returned will be the same.  This will be necessary 
because I cannot select the ID with the other column to identify the rows.

Any thoughts will be most welcome.


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