Daniel John Debrunner wrote:

Kathy Saunders wrote:

I agree with Oystein.  I do think there are customers who use these
scripts--they are not just viewed by everyone as sample files.  I also
think that it's very common to have a bin directory that contains
scripts like these.  In particular, I believe that users expect to see a
startserver script or executable in a bin directory.  My opinion is that
we keep the scripts (with appropriate clean up), but move them to a bin
directory under DERBY_HOME where they will be easier to find.

Do we need to leave the scripts in the frameworks directory as well?
If we care about backwards compatibility for these then they should
remain where they are.

We may want to look at what useful scripts should be provided in a new
bin directory. Ones that work without the user having to modify them or
run separate setup scripts.

Dan.





That's a good question. I suspect we'll be ok if we move them and still have the same commands available, but it would certainly need to be documented in the release notes as something that might affect existing applications. But, if we want to be *very* careful we could leave them or announce they would be moved (or removed) in a later release. I've seen applications that rely on these scripts, but my take is that they would make the adjustment to a bin directory without much fuss. I think that if someone decides to move the scripts, it would be good to post a question to the user list. Some of us who work with existing customers could also check. I could check with some of the Cloudscape customers to see what they think. If someone decides to take ownership of moving the scripts and wants me to query my customers, let me know.

Kathy

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