Jean T. Anderson wrote:

Stanley Bradbury wrote:
The final chapters or the Working With Derby are available for review
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In chapter 6 you link to http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/UsesOfDerby ,
and I think this is ok but that list kind of overwhelming with just a
few pointers on how to actually use a product with Derby.

I had pulled some of the links for the Quick Start page [1] from
http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DerbyInstruction , which points to real
materials on how to do things. I think with some improvement it might be
a better candidate for linking to.

I'll take a shot at reorgnizing the DerbyInstruction:
1) I think it needs a flatter structure that makes it easier to find a
given product
2) I don't like the name DerbyInstruction -- I find it too hard to even
remember it's there. What would be better? DerbyHowTo ?

thoughts?

-jean

[1] http://db.apache.org/derby/quick_start.html#Next+Steps+for+Users

Hi Jean -

Thank you for pointing this page out - I like your suggestion but think it better to replace the main link at the beginning of the chapter (currently pointing to the 'Quick Start' page (QS)) with the more focused DerbyInstruction page (DI). What do you think? I would then demote, so to speak, the QS link to paragraph text where QS is mentioned (just before the location of the 'Uses of Derby' link (UOD)). I'd like to leave the text mentioning UOD and encouraging people to add to it but, after thinking about your comments, think that removing the link from WWD would be wise. People who are really interested can seek out the page but folks not sure where to go next won't be able to just click through to it. I agree it is a mixed bag but I do like it from a PR standpoint - it shows Derby is being adopted. That is to say: I like telling people about UOD at the end of WWD as they might be wondering where Derby fits within their environment. Though the links on UOD will not talk directly about Derby the number of entries show it is widely used. I think seeing this will provide a level of confidence that Derby can be used in real-life situations.

And now onto you question: A better name for DerbyInstruction here are some off-the-top (if not off-the-wall) suggestions (I like DerbyHowTo as well):

DerbyCookbook  -  CookingWithDerby  - DerbyRecipes - DerbyRecipebook

ImplementingDerby  - RunningWithDerby - DerbyKnowHow

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