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Tomohito Nakayama commented on DERBY-1303:
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Hello.

My thoughts are as next...

1) 
Tests may be runnable as independent program , but not needed to be.

Now we have *.junit support in our test framework, then runnablitily of each 
tests is not needed.
However, there are no need to prohibit it.


2)
Yes. I think we need support for starting and shutdown network server from 
tests.

I saw several tests which start annd shutdown network server, not only 
derbynet/SuicideOfStreaming.junit, 
derbynet/dataSourcePermissions_net.java ,which was touched in DERBY-273 , for 
example.

Then, I think it is natural to support start/shutdown network server in test 
framework.

I prefer to implement code to support this , in class methods of subclass from 
BaseJDBCTestCase.
However, it should be left to programmer who works for it :)

About your two option of "a) or b)", I think it should be possible for 
programmer who implement each tests to choose which.
I think question of "a) or b)" depends on what the individual test does.
Then framework code should support both of them.


3)
I thnk we can place *.junit tests in the same directory as other tests,
because *.junit are tests in the same way as others.

However,I think we should have the list that tells which tests are executed as 
*.junit.
(I think this list should be existed not only for *.junit ,but also for *.java 
*.sql *.unit ... 
That list would help us.)

> The test of derbynet/SuicideOfStreaming.java is failed when programs are 
> build as Insane.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>          Key: DERBY-1303
>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1303
>      Project: Derby
>         Type: Bug

>   Components: Test
>  Environment: 
> http://www.multinet.no/~solberg/public/Apache/TinderBox_Derby/Limited/testSummary-405038.html
>     Reporter: Tomohito Nakayama
>     Assignee: Tomohito Nakayama
>  Attachments: DERBY-1303.patch
>
> "derbynet/SuicideOfStreaming.java" have dependency on build as Sane.
> When programs are build as Insane, 
> code to cause artificial Exception is not compiled and 
> streaming does not failed in derbynet/SuicideOfStreaming.java as expected in 
> this test program.
> The dependency results in fail of derbynet/SuicideOfStreaming.java when 
> programs are comiled as insane.

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