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Laura Stewart commented on DERBY-1330:
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In the spec AuthorizationModelForDerbySQLStandardAuthorizationV2.html, I am not 
sure that I understand the sentences in this paragraph :

"Authorization checking is of little value unless Derby authentication is 
turned on. By default, Derby's authentication is OFF and can be turned ON by 
setting derby.connection.requireAuthentication to TRUE. Attempts to set 
security mode to Derby SQL Standard Authorization mode without first requiring 
authentication will raise a warning."

Questions:
1. The text here refers to "derby.connection.requireAuthentication", how is 
that different from "derby.database.defaultConnectionMode" and 
"derby.database.sqlAuthorization" ?

2. The last sentence in the paragraph from the spec is confusing.  It is 
unclear what "requiring authentication" means. Is that "user" authentication, 
"Derby" authentication?  What is clear is that "authentication" must be set 
before the security mode is set.  The sentence implies that "Derby SQL Standard 
Authorization" is a mode that can be set for security. How is the "security 
mode" set?  

I'd appreciate any clarification that you can provide.

> Provide runtime privilege checking for grant/revoke functionality
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-1330
>                 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1330
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: SQL
>    Affects Versions: 10.2.0.0
>            Reporter: Mamta A. Satoor
>         Assigned To: Mamta A. Satoor
>         Attachments: AuthorizationModelForDerbySQLStandardAuthorization.html, 
> AuthorizationModelForDerbySQLStandardAuthorizationV2.html, 
> DERBY1330javaDocWarningsDiffV9.txt, DERBY1330javaDocWarningsStatV9.txt, 
> Derby1330MinorCleanupV7diff.txt, Derby1330MinorCleanupV7stat.txt, 
> Derby1330PrivilegeCollectionV2diff.txt, 
> Derby1330PrivilegeCollectionV2stat.txt, 
> Derby1330PrivilegeCollectionV3diff.txt, 
> Derby1330PrivilegeCollectionV3stat.txt, 
> Derby1330setUUIDinDataDictionaryV10diff.txt, 
> Derby1330setUUIDinDataDictionaryV10stat.txt, 
> Derby1330setUUIDinDataDictionaryV8diff.txt, 
> Derby1330setUUIDinDataDictionaryV8stat.txt, 
> Derby1330uuidIndexForPermsSystemTablesV4diff.txt, 
> Derby1330uuidIndexForPermsSystemTablesV4stat.txt, 
> Derby1330uuidIndexForPermsSystemTablesV5diff.txt, 
> Derby1330uuidIndexForPermsSystemTablesV5stat.txt, 
> Derby1330uuidIndexForPermsSystemTablesV6diff.txt, 
> Derby1330uuidIndexForPermsSystemTablesV6stat.txt, 
> Derby1330ViewPrivilegeCollectionV1diff.txt, 
> Derby1330ViewPrivilegeCollectionV1stat.txt
>
>
> Additional work needs to be done for grant/revoke to make sure that only 
> users with required privileges can access various database objects. In order 
> to do that, first we need to collect the privilege requirements for various 
> database objects and store them in SYS.SYSREQUIREDPERM. Once we have this 
> information then when a user tries to access an object, the required 
> SYS.SYSREQUIREDPERM privileges for the object will be checked against the 
> user privileges in SYS.SYSTABLEPERMS, SYS.SYSCOLPERMS and 
> SYS.SYSROUTINEPERMS. The database object access will succeed only if the user 
> has the necessary privileges.
> SYS.SYSTABLEPERMS, SYS.SYSCOLPERMS and SYS.SYSROUTINEPERMS are already 
> populated by Satheesh's work on DERBY-464. But SYS.SYSREQUIREDPERM doesn't 
> have any information in it at this point and hence no runtime privilege 
> checking is getting done at this point.

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