Jean T. Anderson wrote: > Daniel John Debrunner wrote: > >>Jean T. Anderson wrote: >> >>>Daniel John Debrunner wrote: >>> >>>>Rick Hillegas wrote: >>> >>>... >>> >>>>>3) Are there other unclear issues? >>>> >>>>One clear issue that no-one has mentioned. Based upon the guidelines at >>>>http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html we should no longer commit >>>>any contribution that has a copyright statement in it. E.g. a new file >>>>should not be accepted if it has a copyright statement in it. The owner >>>>of the copyright needs to remove the statement, so it's not as easy as >>>>the committer simply deleting it. >>> >>> >>>The DB PMC can approve committing a contribution with a copyright >>>statement in it. >> >>Where does it say that on the policy page? >> >>http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html > > ... > > Not on that page. > > I have that understand from posts on legal-discuss regarding the source > header changes. > > First by this post by Roy Fielding [1]: > > On Jun 5, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Stephen McConnell ((DPML)) wrote: > > In addition to the above I would like to know the ASF position > > concerning > > potentially new contributions to the ASF associated to known and > > reachable > > contributors via existing copyright assertions who are unwilling to > > acquiesce to the removal of copyright statements from existing > > documents. > > The law does not allow us to remove or alter the copyright notice > without the copyright owner's consent. When new contributions are > made, the responsible PMC decides whether the contribution is in a > form that they deem acceptable, and either accepts it or rejects it. > > And this post, also by Roy Fielding [2]: > > On Jun 5, 2006, at 3:38 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Is a copyright entry acceptable only for an initial contribution, > > and not > > thereafter? Or what? And, yes, I understand that PMCs can make > > decisions, > > but we really ought to have a policy to prevent things turning into > > copywrong. > > A PMC must vote to accept the contribution. The PMC can choose not to > accept the contribution based on anything it doesn't like. If we make > a special rule based on all of the possible anti-social behaviors > that might lead to chaos, then our PMCs are never going to learn how > to govern themselves. We only need ASF-wide rules for the things that > are required of the ASF as a whole. > > Anything that does not match the documented guideline should be popped > to the PMC. And, if there's any doubt about what the PMC can and cannot > do, the PMC itself can get further guidance. > > -jean > > [1] > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200606.mbox/[EMAIL > PROTECTED] > > [2] > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200606.mbox/[EMAIL > PROTECTED] >
Later discussion seems to imply Roy is wrong, there is a single policy for this issue, set by the board. PMC's cannot overrule it. "Note in B2 of the resolution "there should be no copyright notice in the header"." http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200607.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] The board resolution in the legal-discuss matches the policy page, no mention that PMC's can opt out. Not clear though. Dan.
