I recognize this bug is too vague, but I wanted to get something into the system so we can start investigating it. If I knew what "fast enough" was, then perhaps we could have a measure to close it.

If you were to ask me, "fast enough" is no more than 3 seconds with the default configuration. 5 seconds is pushing it. What do others think?

From a user's perspective it's irrelevant what component is causing the delay, it just takes too long (e.g. when I run 'connect jdbc:derby:mydb;create=true').

Also you of course need to describe the hardware configuration. It all gets so nitpicky, when what we're after is fixing a perception. Maybe it can be created as a project on the Wiki with a series of JIRAs attached to it?

David

Daniel John Debrunner (JIRA) wrote:
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1664?page=comments#action_12427303 ] Daniel John Debrunner commented on DERBY-1664:
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Might be good to separate this out into:

1) driver load time
2) database create time
3) database open time
4) create table (first SQL command?) time

Also bugs like this tend to be problematic, when exactly does one close them. 
Better to identify specific improvements that can be made and address those.

Derby startup time is too slow
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                Key: DERBY-1664
                URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1664
            Project: Derby
         Issue Type: Bug
         Components: Store
           Reporter: David Van Couvering
            Fix For: 10.2.0.0


I know it's hard to measure what "too slow" is, but this is a common complaint 
and this affects overall perception of Derby.  This appears to be related to another 
common complaint that it takes too long to create tables.  I am marking this as Urgent 
because of the impact it has to Derby perception and the fact that the 10.2 release is 
going to get such wide distribution through the Sun JDK.
For background, see http://www.nabble.com/Startup-time-tf2012748.html#a5531684

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