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Daniel John Debrunner commented on DERBY-2109:
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Rick thanks for writing this up and looking & proposing how to use the Java 
SecurityManager.

I would not have the fake concept of a " System Administrator ". With 
descriptions like this it's better to be precise in the functional 
specification, maybe the user documentation could explain it in more detail 
using the concept of a System Administrator.
e.g. in the functional spec replace sentances like this:

If the engine runs under a SecurityManager, then only a System Administrator 
can halt the engine.

with the technially correct version of:

If the engine runs under a SecurityManager, then the shutdownEngine  
DerbyPermission is required.

Since I assume since these are Java permissions that they can be granted to 
code as well as Principles or are they restricted in some way? E.g. can I grant 
shutdown engine to all code?

I would not use DerbyPermission for the class name, the class name should 
describe permissions it is covering, maybe
 org.apache.derby.security.SystemPermission ?

The code should not assume the Princple implementation is DerbyPrinciple, seems 
like it would be useful to be able
to use other implementations of Principle. E.g. the existing UserAuthenticator 
class could be expanded to have a new method
  public Principle getPrinciple(String userName)
allowing use of existing implementations such as X500Principal or the Principle 
implementation returned from an LDAP setup.

Similar naming concerns for DerbyPrinciple, the class is already in the derby 
namespace so it should be obvious that it's a Derby user, I think it's really 
something like:
   org.apache.derby.authentication.DatabasePrinciple ??


> System privileges
> -----------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-2109
>                 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-2109
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Security
>    Affects Versions: 10.3.0.0
>            Reporter: Rick Hillegas
>             Fix For: 10.3.0.0
>
>         Attachments: systemPrivs.html
>
>
> Add mechanisms for controlling system-level privileges in Derby. See the 
> related email discussion at 
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.db.derby.devel/33151.
> The 10.2 GRANT/REVOKE work was a big step forward in making Derby more  
> secure in a client/server configuration. I'd like to plug more client/server 
> security holes in 10.3. In particular, I'd like to focus on  authorization 
> issues which the ANSI spec doesn't address.
> Here are the important issues which came out of the email discussion.
> Missing privileges that are above the level of a single database:
> - Create Database
> - Shutdown all databases
> - Shutdown System
> Missing privileges specific to a particular database:
> - Shutdown that Database
> - Encrypt that database
> - Upgrade database
> - Create (in that Database) Java Plugins (currently  Functions/Procedures, 
> but someday Aggregates and VTIs)
> Note that 10.2 gave us GRANT/REVOKE control over the following  
> database-specific issues, via granting execute privilege to system  
> procedures:
> Jar Handling
> Backup Routines
> Admin Routines
> Import/Export
> Property Handling
> Check Table
> In addition, since 10.0, the privilege of connecting to a database has been 
> controlled by two properties (derby.database.fullAccessUsers and 
> derby.database.defaultConnectionMode) as described in the security section of 
> the Developer's Guide (see 
> http://db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.2/devguide/cdevcsecure865818.html).

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