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Rick Hillegas commented on DERBY-1387:
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I see. So if the DBA uses system procedures to read the passwords, hashed 
values come back.

Starting another thread on this topic: Password management is generally handled 
by end-users. An administrator sets up an initial password and the end-user 
then changes it immediately afterward. I don't think our BUILTIN scheme works 
this way--although we could improve it by giving end-users a tool to change 
their passwords. The JMX-based password setting could be useful if we just see 
it as a way for the DBA to initialize passwords or forcibly reset them when the 
user forgets her credentials.


> Add JMX extensions to Derby
> ---------------------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-1387
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1387
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Services
>            Reporter: Sanket Sharma
>            Assignee: Bernt M. Johnsen
>         Attachments: DERBY-1387-1.diff, DERBY-1387-1.stat, DERBY-1387-2.diff, 
> DERBY-1387-2.stat, DERBY-1387-3.diff, DERBY-1387-3.stat, derbyjmx.patch, 
> jmx.diff, jmx.stat, jmxFuncspec.html, Requirements for JMX Updated.html, 
> Requirements for JMX.html, Requirements for JMX.zip
>
>
> This is a draft requirement specification for adding monitoring and 
> management extensions to Apache Derby using JMX. The requirements document 
> has been uploaded on JIRA as well as the Derby Wiki page at 
> http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/_Requirement_Specifications_for_Monitoring_%26_Management_Extensions_using_JMX
> Developers and Users are requested to please look at the document (feature 
> list in particular) and add their own rating to features by adding a coloumn 
> to the table.
> Comments are welcome.

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