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Daniel John Debrunner commented on DERBY-3429:
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Another thought is that we need to see MBeans as the mechanism to manage Derby, 
not just an api into existing management. Thus any application MBeans that are 
presenting a simplified/application specific view of Derby's management should 
be using Derby's MBeans to manage Derby. This requires that Derby's MBeans be 
available.

> Remove system property derby.system.jmx
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>                 Key: DERBY-3429
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-3429
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>            Reporter: Daniel John Debrunner
>            Priority: Minor
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> I don't believe that derby.system.jmx provides any benefit and is counter to 
> the concept of using JMX for management.
> The one use case for it from DERBY-1387 is:
> Making the Derby JMX automatically available in the MBean server will make it 
> impossible for the user to make some application with an embedded Derby db 
> manageable thorugh JMX without also making Derby manageable thorugh JMX. I 
> would think that this "all or nothing" granularity could be a problem for 
> some applications. So we would need an explicit derby.system.jmx property for 
> enabling the management service anyway.
> The functional spec contains no information as to why this is a useful 
> feature.
> I wanted to separate out the discussion from the wider issues in DERBY-1387

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