trouble getting user/password access to work with JMX

[Kathey Marsden]

On Windows I am working my way through
http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DerbyJMXQuickStart
I am on the example


         Example: Enabling Remote JMX, password authentication, no SSL

I found that to get the server to get the start command to work cleanly 
I needed to change the permissions on
jmxremote.password with
cacls jmxremote.password /P <username>:R

I then try to connect in jconsole with
localhost:9999
user: monitorRole
password: derbym

But I get a failed to connect message with no other information.  Any 
idea what I might be doing wrong.

I can connect to the process id with no user/password.

Thanks

Kathey