Open https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-5387 and attached the Netbeans 
project for the utility along with two reports from Eclipse MemoryAnalyzer to 
for the suspected leak.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Hillegas [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Question on unloading in an embedded environment

On 8/17/11 11:03 AM, Bergquist, Brett wrote:
> I have a report generated by MemoryAnalyzer (Eclipse) tool.  The report is 
> stored as a zip file that contains the HTML and images.  Can I attach this to 
> an email?
Hi Brett,

If it's big, I would recommend attaching it to a JIRA issue.

Thanks,
-Rick
> I have attached a JPG of some of the report here.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bergquist, Brett [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:16 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Question on unloading in an embedded environment
>
> So this is running on Solaris 10 Java 1.6.0_22 with "-d64 -Xmx8129m 
> -XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemory"   Unfortunately the heap dump is so large it take 
> 32Gb for jhat to load it and then forever for look at anything.  I am running 
> the app again with a smaller heap to get the problem to occur quicker and 
> with a smaller heap dump to be able to get a allocation traceback.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bergquist, Brett [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:49 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Question on unloading in an embedded environment
>
> This was run with 8gb of heap available.  The system is a Oracle M3000 with 
> 32Gb of real ram.  It did not run out of swap while running, so it hit the 
> heap max.
>
> Why would the sorter be called when doing a SYSCS_IMPORT_TABLE?  That is all 
> this application is doing.  It exports a table from one database with 
> SYSCS_EXPORT_TABLE and imports into the other database with 
> SYSCS_IMPORT_TABLE.  No queries or other statements are being used.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Pendleton [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Question on unloading in an embedded environment
>
>> Instance Counts for All Classes (excluding platform)
>>
>> 38006784 instances of class org.apache.derby.impl.store.access.sort.Node
> One possibility is that the sorter is confused about how much memory
> is available.
>
> The sorter is very clever, and tries to figure out whether it can perform
> the sort in-memory, or whether it has to switch to an external (disk-based)
> sort, using temporary files to hold the partially-sorted data.
>
> If the sorter is confused about how much memory is available (i.e., thinks
> there is more memory available than there actually is), then it might
> drive the system out of memory.
>
> This would certainly be a bug, but not a leak exactly, rather a flaw
> in the internal-vs-external sort analysis code.
>
> thanks,
>
> bryan
>
> P.S. I'm still wondering if your memory issues are actually external to
> Derby; that is, if you've configured your JVM with memory sizes that exceed
> the memory available in the underlying operating system. That would cause
> Derby to attempt to allocate data structures that the JVM was willing to
> allow, but which the underlying OS refused to provide.
>
>
>
>
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