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Kathey Marsden commented on DERBY-866:
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I have really only skimmed the spec but totally agree that a separate 
credentialsDB seems too heavy weight for Derby and also seems like it would 
cause trouble  in shared environments like Application  Servers.   It seems 
like it is geared mostly for network server environments, is that correct? 

I also agree that this should be a plug-able feature and not impact standard 
embedded environments in any way.




                
> Derby User Management Enhancements
> ----------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-866
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-866
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Services
>    Affects Versions: 10.2.1.6
>            Reporter: Francois Orsini
>            Assignee: Rick Hillegas
>         Attachments: Derby_User_Enhancement.html, 
> Derby_User_Enhancement_v1.1.html, DummyAuthenticator.java, 
> UserManagement.html, UserManagement.html, UserManagement.html, 
> derby-866-01-aa-sysusers.diff, derby-866-01-ab-sysusers.diff, 
> dummyCredentials.properties
>
>
> Proposal to enhance Derby's Built-In DDL User Management. (See proposal spec 
> attached to the JIRA).
> Abstract:
> This feature aims at improving the way BUILT-IN users are managed in Derby by 
> providing a more intuitive and familiar DDL interface. Currently (in 
> 10.1.2.1), Built-In users can be defined at the system and/or database level. 
> Users created at the system level can be defined via JVM or/and Derby system 
> properties in the derby.properties file. Built-in users created at the 
> database level are defined via a call to a Derby system procedure 
> (SYSCS_UTIL.SYSCS_SET_DATABASE_PROPERTY) which sets a database property.
> Defining a user at the system level is very convenient and practical during 
> the development phase (EOD) of an application - However, the user's password 
> is not encrypted and consequently appears in clear in the derby.properties 
> file. Hence, for an application going into production, whether it is embedded 
> or not, it is preferable to create users at the database level where the 
> password is encrypted.
> There is no real ANSI SQL standard for managing users in SQL but by providing 
> a more intuitive and known interface, it will ease Built-In User management 
> at the database level as well as Derby's adoption.

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