Michael J. Segel wrote:
On Thursday 27 October 2005 23:04, Jean T. Anderson wrote:

Michael J. Segel wrote:

...
Getting back to Apache, under Apache, the contributor pretty much puts
his software out in the public eye and says have at it.

Apache is great if your goal is to take and use the IP or embed the
product in your application for resale.

It sucks if you're a developer and want to extend an existing app with
some new IP that has some monetary value. This is what I meant about
protecting your IP.
...

It seems clear that you don't like the Apache License. That's fine;
everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.

In your case, perhaps it would be wise to avoid using/developing
software licensed under the ASL.

 -jean


Jean,

I guess you have a bit of defensive streak because you're misinterpretting what I'm saying.

As a user of Apache products, its a great thing. Since one of the posters was from Cisco asking about it, yeah Derby is a much better deal than MySQL since he can avoid any legal issues and use it as he/she feels fit.

Cisco gets an embedable database for "free". Sans support, but hey, they always have you to support the product, or they could pay to have someone maintain a code stream and fix it themselves.

The net net, is that they can save a bundle by not having to license an RDBMS from someone. Even after steep discounts, its still pretty expensive. Now who is it that they currently use.... ;-) Sorry, but using Derby is one thing. Contributing IP to improve Derby is another. Sorry to beat a dead/dying horse, but I thought that this should clear things up.


This is the wrong list for discussing Apache licensing. Users subscribe to this list to discuss how to use Derby.

That much said, if you have a specific question about the ASL that isn't addressed by one of the resources mentioned at http://db.apache.org/derby/license.html , please feel free to post that question here. I'll take it to the DB PMC for clarification and, if needed, on to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please use derby-user for discussions on how to use Derby.

 -jean

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