Often, databases are installed in a web server so they are able to be shared among multiple web applications. Depending on the web server, installation might require the server to be bounced to take effect, although many servers can dynamically add resources. The referenced article calls this "Casual Integration" and "Enterprise Integration".

If the Derby database is intended only for use by a specific web application (not shared) I don't believe that the web server is even aware of its use, and therefore no installation, configuration, or special treatment of the database is needed. The article refers to this as "Prototype Integration". To the web server, the application is simply accessing files, so the only thing that's needed is to configure the application for deployment such that file access is permitted.

As far as I know, the only thing to watch out for is class loader conflicts. To avoid possible conflicts among multiple applications using Derby, the "non-delegate" property of the application should be used. This has the effect of loading the entire Derby code base into the application. For efficiency, if multiple applications are going to use Derby, it might be a good idea to use "delegate" and share the Derby code, understanding that sharing the code has more requirements (you need to make sure that the different applications can use the same version of Derby).

Craig

On Oct 30, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:

Legolas Woodland wrote:

Thank you for references
I read the article of embeding Derby into Tomcat
but in my case i have no full access to server to stop tomcat or install derby into the server.
I thought Embeding means no installation requirement.
is there any way that i include some derby jar files with my web application (into lib folder) and use it as embeded DB server ?


Check out Lance Bader's developerWorks article "Integrate Cloudscape Version 10 or Derby with Tomcat":

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/ dm-0508bader/index.html

His "prototype integration" option doesn't require touching the Tomcat configuration. While his instructions have you stop/start the tomcat server, I don't know if this is strictly necessary to add derby to your existing web application. Does anyone on this list know for sure?

 -jean



Thank you.
On 10/29/05, *Jean T. Anderson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
    Legolas Woodland wrote:
     > Hi
     > Thank you for reading my post
     > I should design and implement an application which is going to
    run on
> tomcat 5.5 and Database can be one of derby ,sqlServer , Mysql. > Problem is that this application should be able to have about 15
     > -20Transaction in 1 second .They have no extra power servers ,
    just an
     > ordinary hosting plan.
     > my question is : which of this database is better to choose ?
     > i thought that derby could be better because it can be embeded
    into my
     > application .
> can derby carry out 15-20 transacion in 1 secod ?is it feasible with > using DAO pattern and plain JDBC ,or it need some other requirement ? > I have Struts and mysql experience I learned derby but i did not
    use it
     > yet.
     > before they ask me about  implementing this project they used
    PHP+Mysql
> and it seems that that application Hangs on +10 hits per second
     > each hit had some Insert one update and 2 select at least.
     >
Dan Debrunner's "Introducing Apache Derby" presentation from ApacheCon US last November might have some helpful info for you. You can download
    it from http://db.apache.org/derby/binaries/djd_derby_intro.pdf .
    A "Guidelines" section starts on slide 19. Slide 24 lists 100-500
updates per second -- but, of course, your actual performance will
    depend on the complexity of your transactions.
Also you might be interested in an article Stan Bradbury contributed yesterday that shows a way to embed Derby in Tomcat 5.5. You can find it
    here:
http://db.apache.org/derby/integrate/ DerbyTomcat5512JPetStor.html <http://db.apache.org/derby/integrate/ DerbyTomcat5512JPetStor.html>
    I hope this helps.
    regards,
    -jean




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